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I fully understand that from what I have heard, and was not trying to guilt people at fault or irritate people, I was just attempting to present a situation that maybe needed addressing. I applaud y'all's work in the area though.

1. No, Greek Fire was the biggest naval supremacy until cannons.

It's a myth

Greek Fire isn't a myth. It's recorded in almost every Mediterranean countries history that the Byzantines had the best navy due to Greek Fire. The only reason you think it's a "myth" is because we don't have the god damned recipe for it nowadays thanks to those retarded Ottomans.

Almsot every Mediterrenean nation also has a sun god and a rain god. Obviously this is proof of Polythiesm. Yes, you can hve Greek fire, it's very likely it existed, but don't go so overboard

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_fire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_navy

This was basically the medieval flamethrowers. This is impossible to beat at sea and sieges. No matter how much bs you pull out of your ass, this is the real shit and they were the dominant naval power in the Mediterranean. You could not beat them until they had a few dozen ships vs 1k ships. Even then they inflicted severe losses on their enemies.

Israelites begin to build cheap ships with Iron Rams, these ships charge through the Greek fire, and slam into Muscovite ships. This will spread the fire to the Muscovite ships, then the men will charge at the Muscovites, wth the goal of sabotaging as much as they can. Ropes, sails, Greek fire storages

When did I declare war on you?

You didn't, I'm just saying how we will fight your Greek fire if you decide to attack, which you've already said you eill

How to beat War's Greek Fire Ships: Step 1: Bait them into releasing their fire. Step 2: Arm ballistae with grappling hooks. Step 3: Fire ballistae at ships opposite the greek fire. Step 4: Pull. Step 5: GG.

You can drop an anchor faster than those ships can pull it in with grappling hooks.

But then the ship would be locked in place, a sitting duck for trebuchet or catapult fire.

Going along with War here: the grapples could be thrown overboard or cut. It doesn't make much sense.

An anchor is only useful if it can snag on a rock or something. Naturalist warriors on the Qariri ships dive into the sea, then swim far down. Once they are deep beneath the sea, they cross under the fire, where it cannot reach. Then, they swim up to the Muscovite ships (in stealth) and climb up the anchor ropes. From there, they begin to cut ropes to the rigging, and light the excess Greek fire aflame

What no, the Greek Fire would be guarded. x.x

And they just swam through the water... They would have no fire lol, didn't think about that. Will scratch that piece. Maybe they could just cut the anchor ropes to let the ships continue pulling with the grapples?

The grapples would be thrown overboard. Plus the men above would probably see it and hear it.

Let me think...... Assassins Craft that wasn't power gaming now stop with the ice wall only coz you afraid of moscovy attacking u

Craft want to hear something funny? The water will boil them to death or your man can dive into the amazing deep of 12 under the sea? The grabbing hook is useless because when you pull the ship toward the Greek fire your ship is pulled toward the Greek fire as well (physic) When your chip ships will try to cross the Greek fire they will just get shot by catapults/ballistas and will turn over because the rock will bend the metal and all your soldiers will fall into the Greek fire/boiled water or just into the water and will be easy targets for war's archers/random guys with heavy items