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only Donald Trump would show any interest in something like this ://

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It’s a sadistic image at heart. The cat has all the power over the defenseless mouse

Bill Clinton said he’s not sorry.

And Hillary supports killing babies I think thats quite a bit worse. Also cats evolved to be genetically programmed to hunt and control the population of mice who’d otherwise overrun communities and ecosystems. It’s a marvel of nature.

I guess DNA is sadistic, but Bill and Hillary are not?

she supports reproductive rights which is very misunderstood. just because cats can hunt doesn’t mean they should

I mean idrc about abortion but it should be allowed for rape cases and if the mother is in danger.

If cats don’t hunt they will die. I’m not talking about domesticated cats.. but those are genetically identical to feral cats so they are biologically programmed to hunt animals. Cats evolved specifically to control the population of small animals such as rodents which reproduce very rapidly until the ecosystem can no longer support their numbers, inbreeding occurs, resources are depleted and the ecosystem is disrupted. Mother nature, so-to-speak created this food chain through millions of years of evolution. Cats became human pets when permanent human settlements first began, as rodents and other pests infested human dwellings and ate their food and crop, cats moved in and controlled the pests. Now when cat numbers increase too much due to human influence, it can cause over hunting of animals in the absence of a pest infestation to keep them occupied.. but that is down to human intervention.

Reproductive rights is tricky. A person’s right to have access to family planning counseling and birth control is important. (necessary for population control and stability.. look at Africa where the population is projected to eclipse 6 billion by 2100). Early term abortions are controversial but can be beneficial for women especially very young ones who’s opportunities could be dashed by an unplanned pregnancy. It’s needed to save women who have complications and will die unless they receive an abortion, like an ectopic pregnancy. And it can be used for rape victims. Late term abortion is horrible because the brain, organs and sex have already developed, and you have a visibly distinguishable human life, which cannot simply be passed off as a ‘blob of cells’ instead of a human life.

I’m disagreeing with you, i know how biology works. it’s the fact that you would post something like this. it is simply taking the darker parts of our world, and finding enjoyment out of it 2) It’s not that complicated. her body, her choice. if she wants an abortion, then she will get one even if it isn’t safe. we have access to counseling, education, and proper abortion providers, so we should use it. trimester 3 abortions don’t even happen that often anyway

But (some) people on the left are celebrating abortion rights and the killing of babies as a victory. And they refuse to perceive the unborn fetus as a human life. That thought process and the universal/unrestricted access to abortion leads to a lack of accountability towards these human lives. Its just easier to call it a “pregnancy” as a condition without accountability for the biologically human life being created. 1.2 million babies being killed every year in the US is a sad statement. But why is a fetus not a baby, when in fact it is? What if one of those fetus’s was to turn into you, or me? And what would be lost to the world if it were to be aborted.

Yeah, some people will have that ideology, but that’s just the reality. i don’t think anyone purposely wants an abortion considering how expensive they are. yeah, it’s sad, but the world is overpopulated, and reproductive care is necessary. it’s not a happy thing, but it’s necessary

Hillary failed to face and acknowledge those facts and questions. Most of her vocal supporters’ were fully supportive of unrestricted abortion, which is a baby genocide, refusing to acknowledge it and human life, (just because the baby wasn’t born does not mean it was never a baby). Hillary allowed herself to become the face of that ideology. Aside from teens who make mistakes, women with pregnancy complications, and rape victims, there is no reason millions of people shouldn’t be accountable for the decisions they make. Women have the right to chose what they do with their bodies, which means they have the right to use contraceptives and to plan pregnancies, but should not be unnecessarily creating and killing millions of babies every year. And planned parenthood should not be selling and encouraging abortions for the profits, taxpayers shouldn’t be paying for unrestricted abortions, and businesses should not be harvesting organs from aborted fetuses. And Hillary should have been willing to stand up for that but she did not. She embraced universal pro choice ideology, thus promoting the normalization of this trend.

Also, I stopped typing that for a while and came back. It was supposed to be an immediate follow up.

im not defending Hillary Clinton, but uh ok. punishing women for obtaining reproductive care targets minorities, a waste of resources, and not something that should be our priority

And in response, I can also agree some, I think it would be best to acknowledge the fact that women will indeed make those decisions, and therefore allowing safe options would be necessary, but without any restrictions, will it lead to a cultural decay, and should it be federally mandated, those remain unanswered. I’ll have to get people’s thoughts on the wall. We have at least agreed on counseling, safety issues and the prevailing of individual self determination as well as the acknowledgment of human life in a fetus. Nice debate.

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alrighty. good way to kick it off in a positive way by finding middle ground

With Hillary it wasn’t about reproductive rights but a failure to make some important distinctions. For someone who is not necessarily pro life or choice, it’s almost nitpicking. But The Donald has had to put up with a constant stream of nitpicking. And to question the values and decisions that would develop and occur in response to how abortion is regulated or not is not the same thing as punishing women for reproductive rights. And “reproductive rights” seemed lacking in distinction, since the only issue being questioned was unrestricted late term abortion.