I'd consider Washington Post to be a fairly decent paper with a liberal skew. It's definitely liberal, but calling it hardcore liberal is...the word wrong comes to mind. If you look at something like Huffington Post, that's pretty far left.
True. So is Racheal Maddow’s show, Lawrence O’Donnell’s show on MSNBC, and Don Lemon on CNN. They are horrendously extreme left, constantly attacking Trump in the most nasty and ridiculous ways, white shaming and are very unprofessional and unable to show any kind of news.
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/shrug I don't watch any of those
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Yeah the news has to be emotionally manipulative. Aside from your hatred towards Time, what does this even mean?
First, various outlets have recently been focused on family separations, harshly criticizing Trump. However the practice of separating children from illegal immigrant parents is not new, and existed during Obama’s administration. Never heard a single story. Several of the photos shown actually took place during the time Obama was president.
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That’s because the Obama administration had ethical practices in place that didn’t focus on prosecuting parents, thus taking them away from their children. Also, there were much more people to deal handle under the Obama administration, so the point that you, and lots of others have been making recently doesn’t add up. Yes, news outlets are manipulating information, but the overall truth is that Trump is pushing for more separation, and division. Democrats made it abundantly clear that this was what would happen months before election season, and now the policies are being threatened, so understand that your argument about photos does not do justice to Trump’s threat to our country’s reputation, let alone to the lives he’s destroying.
Obama’s administration made it easier to get through the border without being prosecuted, and become an illegal immigrant in the US, and crafted DACA so that the children caught up in that situation have a more secure future in the US. But that does not solve the problem of large scale illegal immigration. And no legislation was crafted to address the loophole that immigrants can use children to enter the US illegally, or that immigration can also separate children and parents (or other adult). The Trump administration wants to actually solve the problem of illegal immigration rather than make it worse. Immigration laws exist for a reason and we cannot break all the rules forever without inevitable consequences. With an estimated 15 million illegal immigrants, the problem is becoming harder and harder to deal with. Congress was willing to make compromise to give 1.8 million kids a path to citizenship (DACA) and achieve long term border security (eventually the wall) to reduce the numbers coming in illegally. This would solve multiple problems. The Democrats rejected this. Now 1.8 million kids might not be able to become citizens. The Dems want the Republicans to fail and lose the majority, then achieve DACA, take credit for it, blame Republicans for not doing it, and inflate their future voter base. In the meantime, people are at risk.
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The people who are here simply can’t just go back to where they immigrated from, how insulting. We have the money, and the resources, so maybe we should let them become tax paying Americans because that will actually be effective. If you care about things that are unjust, then why don’t you focus on the top wealthiest Americans, and how they’re storing their taxes in offshore money havens. Why don’t we promote something that actually focuses on reasonable programs, and policies for ALL?
The top wealthiest Americans literally control almost everything, even what people think. If we attack the tax haven problem, then businesses will begin the process of leaving the US, and it will collapse economically. The true answer is socialism but every time it is implemented it is a disaster even today.