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no lol. there's 0 proof ISIS actually is taking responsibility for this attack, and it's not just something people are saying to fucking scare people more. the shooter struggled with depression and psychosis his whole life and was not responding well to treatment. nobody knows yet why or how this happened but of course the altright is gonna spin it into a disgusting terror attack like they always do, before even knowing the facts or the police investigation concludes. the lack of respect for the people of my city from some americans and politics nuts is absolutely repulsive.

Yeah but the other side is just as repulsive, really they’re becoming worse.

adding onto this not all terrorists or extremeists are part of isis or al qaeda they could be absolute wild cards. Most times we don't find out the persons motive.

we didn't know who it was untill like 10 or 15 hours ago.

then why assume jihadist...

As usual, it's a mentally ill member of religion of peace and it had nothing to do with it. I need a barf bucket after MSM tried to peddle the sob story of his family needing support.

Proof now

Isis claimed responsibity and files reviewed by police showed he was “pro-ISIL” supporter due to him visiting websites linked to isil. Also his web searches showed he had inspiration of the Islamic state. All from police. [user]16147301[/user]

Some people are just so god damn stupid in the head man

That’s why a travel ban works, no Islamic terror since it has been up, thanks to [user]15797529[/user] [user]16147301[/user]

Yeah I guess it’s disgusting to assume that a Muslim committing mass murder isn’t a jihadist and then he turns out to be one. There was 0 official proof on day 1 so obviously he can’t possibly be a terrorist right? To assume so is very disrespectful. Well the amount of people that have died in North America and Europe from Jihadists (Several thousand excluding 9/11) it is no wonder they jump to that conclusion and it turns out to be correct. That’s unfortunate. But it seems to be racist in the leftist’s view to acknowledge the horrendous problems within Islam and be vigilant and be willing to take measures that benefit our safety.

Our main threat are domestic Jihadists, and the travel ban only affects about 9% of the Muslim world, but it exists for countries that a lack a diplomatic relationship or national stability or have the inability or unwillingness to help the US track down threats. It also affects North Korea and the Venezuela regime.

If our main threat are domestic jihadists, then I'd like to see the amount of people killed by non-jihadist murders... I'm going out on a limb here but I'm pretty sure that number is a lot higher than several thousand. And I do think it is disrespectful to assume anything about a case without proof. Even if it turns out to be correct later on you should never spread rumors without confirmation. That isn't to say I don't agree with a travel ban though, I do agree they should limit immigration from high risk countries (muslim or not).

Quite reasonable. However there is a pc trend where law enforcement is afraid to even speculate that it could be terrorism unless there is already proof or it is undeniably obvious. Also, there are thousands of different causes of non jihadists murders, gang violence being the leading cause and illegal immigration being a significantly large factor in gang activity. But jihadists have such a large death toll for being one singular category.

Lets be honest though, it all added up day one. Then more proof came like I said above.

Not really. There were other possibilities day one- mental issues being chief among them. The problem with always assuming based off minimal evidence is sometimes you are going to be wrong, and then you have just slandered a group for something they didn't do.

Islamic terror is the most common with most deaths, you naturally assume it sometimes.

That's not true at all.

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Most common form of terror attack is different than "most common with most deaths". Day one it could've just been a random shooting. Still no reason to assume. You happened to be correct this time but what about the next time when it's just some dude off his meds? Spreading theories as fact before they are confirmed is not a good idea.