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It's nerf or nothin (thats a catch phrase from an american commercial)

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I think regular soldier needs a nerf to less armor or less damage.
doing that would make other classes such as point or vote or donor classes more op because right now I see no action being taken on point classes being trashy as they are (hammer not enough damage, town guard... everything about it, ithilien soldier because mordor gets a sharp 3 class as a voter with more armor, warg rider everybody knows is useless, troll now too easy to strafe too)

make new soldier all chain and stone sword.
 
Hammerer- knocks everyone off the the stairs  and can easily 1v1 soldier.
Troll- can beat any class at 1v1 and skilled trolls can 1v3 and win (I did it)
Royal guard- 1 spear, speed and sharpness is better than 3 Spears coz in battle you don't have time to throw more than 1.
I think you just fought better soldiers or you didn't vote and the soldier did
 
Soldier is just fine and balanced, I see no need to nerf it.
 
assassiniv said:
Hammerer- knocks everyone off the the stairs  and can easily 1v1 soldier.
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I don't lile where hammerer is going, with the latest damage nerf it's relying more and more on its knockback (like bonebreaker) which works fine on the stairs but not the rest of the map. In the halls for example, the slowness+knockback can be really frustrating to play with and makes it hard to kill enemies before they get the chance to leg it. Meanwhile the gap between Hammerer and gundabad orc is just growing...
 
Troll is good, merc is decent now but requires a bit of skill, hammerer counters troll and is still highly viable, royal guard is still decent, reaver is meh but a cool concept that I feel works.

Town guard looks rubbish, warg rider sounds bad from what I've heard.

I don't know about Ithilien soldier or swan knight.
 
Soldier is way too OP , just nerf pants from iron to chain , that would help .
 
Since when hammerer got Nerf?
I think Tim 1v1 as gundabad vs hammerer and got rekt so he nerfed hammerer
 
assassiniv said:
Since when hammerer got Nerf?
I think Tim 1v1 as gundabad vs hammerer and got rekt so he nerfed hammerer
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Gundabad is hammerer with better equipment. I think he´s just nerfing hammer cause he wants there to be a gap between donor and point classes. Since he doesnt want donor classes to be OP, the point classes arent much stronger than the standard classes.
 
Soldier is perfect the way it is, balanced in every possible way. It takes skill to be OP, it takes crappyness to become crap. There is no need to balance this already perfect class.
 
assassiniv said:
Hammerer- knocks everyone off the the stairs  and can easily 1v1 soldier.
Troll- can beat any class at 1v1 and skilled trolls can 1v3 and win (I did it)
Royal guard- 1 spear, speed and sharpness is better than 3 Spears coz in battle you don't have time to throw more than 1.
I think you just fought better soldiers or you didn't vote and the soldier did
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since when does royal have speed?

also, point classes, even the good ones, are just a hair better than free classes. and voter classes, those are still obnoxiously op. if soldier got an armor nerf, it would not just make point classes viable, all of them, but it would also make more room for creativity in point and donor classes.
currently regular soldier is like a tank - it can win vs a lot (dol - it has enough armor to take hits, same with beserker; harad it has enough armor to take the poison too) and some of it is a tradeoff on skill, but I don't think a free class should stand that much of a chance, it takes away value from point classes
 
Gundabad1 said:
Soldier is perfect the way it is, balanced in every possible way. It takes skill to be OP, it takes crappyness to become crap. There is no need to balance this already perfect class.
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I'm not denying it isn't perfect. what I am saying is by ruining this we make point classes more valuable
 
Dr_olex said:
[quote user_id="14628767" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/assassiniv/74.png" name="assassiniv"]Since when hammerer got Nerf?
I think Tim 1v1 as gundabad vs hammerer and got rekt so he nerfed hammerer
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Gundabad is hammerer with better equipment. I think he´s just nerfing hammer cause he wants there to be a gap between donor and point classes. Since he doesnt want donor classes to be OP, the point classes arent much stronger than the standard classes.[/quote]

Not true at all. Gundabad has much worse armor and has Speed instead of Slowness.
The reason we nerfed Hammerer was that all the dwarves played hammerer, and since they almost always have a defensive position, the slowness wouldn't be a big problem and their resistance would help them defending a lot, too much. That's why we rebalanced it a bit. Keep in mind we also buffed it a couple days back (protection on leggings) to make it a bit stronger, but it shouldn't become too strong as it'll ruin the game for the goblins.


[quote user_id="16009508" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/Captain_R3x/74.png" name="Captain_R3x"]I think regular soldier needs a nerf to less armor or less damage.
doing that would make other classes such as point or vote or donor classes more op because right now I see no action being taken on point classes being trashy as they are (hammer not enough damage, town guard... everything about it, ithilien soldier because mordor gets a sharp 3 class as a voter with more armor, warg rider everybody knows is useless, troll now too easy to strafe too)

make new soldier all chain and stone sword.[/quote]

I disagree. Soldier is fine and perfectly balanced as it is. In fact, all other classes are balanced around this class, so if this class is too strong, it means we should actually be buffing the others because they're too weak.

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