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I wonder what is wrong with this Logic?

The Message previously Written was created to inform you of the errors that the Current Translation of the Bible Contain. if you follow me as my Disciple's, i can show you the true way of Christ, and his Father, The Lion.

A conversation with a trinitarian:
Cindyisa10 responded to me as follows:
YOU SAY: "It does NOT SAY that the Word is a PERSON called God! It says "the Word was God." It is DECEPTION to turn the Word into a PERSON for it clearly says "the Word was God" and we know there is ONLY ONE GOD. When it says "the Word was God" it's not talking about a PERSON. It's talking about God's WORD, the things that proceed out of his MOUTH!"
RESPONSE: Of course there's only one God who is complex in nature. Let's look at the implications if your interpretation is correct.
1) It's utterly silly to think that John would need to emphasize "the Word was God" if the Word came from God's mouth as nothing but a string of impersonal words. Why would John have to even mention this? This is the biggest problem with your view. Also, John makes the Word rather than God the subject of the sentence, employs OUTOS ("this one") in John 1:2, and has the Word directly responsible for the act of creation in verse 3. As you can see, your interpretation is extremely strange given that God's Word is nothing but a string of impersonal words proceeding from God’s mouth.
2) Look at John 1:14 for a second "The Word became flesh and took up residence among us, and we observed his (or it, doesn't really matter anyways) glory" Contextually, the "His glory" would be referring to "The Word" correct?
3) Finally, see that I John 1:1-2 clears up this confusion by revealing that the Word of Life is a person.
YOU SAY: “All things were made by him (YHWH GOD) and without him (YHWH GOD) was not any thing made that was made.”
RESPONSE: This is the most dishonest thing you've said thus far. I looked at the Greek and here’s what I found.
Verse 1 - ὁ Λόγος (the Word) is the subject (nominative).
Verse 2 - Οὗτος (the one) is the subject referring to ὁ Λόγος (the Word) since it states Οὗτος was with God. Because of this, we clearly know that the Word is the subject of the sentance.
Therefore, you’re completely wrong in your assessment. By the time we get to verse 3, we clearly see John is talking about the Logos (the Word). Therefore, to claim that John implicitly changed the subject under our nose in verse 3 to be God rather than the Logos is outright false, deceptive, and dishonest. Still don’t believe me, read verse 4 and ask yourself who the “him” is. Finally, go to 1 John 1:1-2 which clearly demonstrates that the Logos of life was Jesus “…the eternal life, which was with the Father and has appeared to us.”
It's time for you to wake up!
TO WHICH I RESPONDED:
Your first argument was so illogical as to stagger the imagination. By your reasoning the Light must be a separate person (otherwise why mention it). So now we have FOUR in the Godhead. The text mentions Glory as well. That makes FIVE in the Godhead (for Glory must be a separate person, otherwise, why mention it?) John must be a separate God in the Godhead (otherwise why mention him)? Shall I go on? How in the WORLD do you manage to understand ANYTHING with such weak reasoning skills?
Your second argument wasn't much better.
You have been taught to completely twist John 1: 14. It says the following " And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." Behold how you CHANGE the words and with it the meaning:
"The Word became flesh and took up residence among us, and we observed his (or it, doesn't really matter anyways) glory" Contextually, the "His glory" would be referring to "The Word" correct?
There is a far cry difference between "was made" and "became." The text never says the Word "became" flesh, because this denotes and ACT of will (of a person) and also denotes a transformation from one thing to another. Instead it says "was made" which denotes CREATION. If it said became flesh we wouldn't even be having this argument, but it DOES NOT SAY that, you MAKE IT say that, which is the usual trick of the deceiver.
Who's GLORY did we observe in Christ while he was here in the flesh? Was it his? It says "and we observed his Glory." You maintain that it is the WORD's Glory they observed, dwelling among them, and that Word is literally the person of Christ. Yet Christ prayed in John 17 "now it is time to Glorify me." All scripture hermeneutically states that Christ was GLORIFIED at his death and resurrection and before that walked as a SERVANT, not clinging to nor demonstrating his Glory (Philippians 2).
Now, here you have John violating ALL of this and saying that they "beheld his Glory" (Christ's Glory) while he was dwelling among them. You trinitarians cannot seem to make up your minds. Did he "empty himself of the Divine (and therefore the Glory) or did he demonstrate it while walking the earth (supposedly as a lowly servant).
Clearly HIS GLORY must be God's GLORY. Indeed, Christ made it clear that his WORDS are not his own, and that his works were not his own but the FATHER'S!
Which, of course would be a LIE completely under your teaching, for if Christ is the PERSON of "THE WORD" he "became" flesh, he cannot say his words are not his own, for his words are HIM, literally.
Your third argument appealed to the wisdom of men. You referenced some man made reference as if it is the final word (because apparently it's in Greek). This is most interesting for it is most assuredly true that John would have wrote this Gospel in HEBREW. You are proceeding under a lie which is ingrained into your thinking.
When it comes to the subject of "the person of God" there is only ONE PERSON of GOD so on that regard there is no "change" in the subject. The subject PERSON in the text is GOD, for in the Beginning there was nothing BUT God. We know this from countless scriptures. Before anything was made there was ONLY GOD! God was alone and by HIMSELF. There was NO OTHER PERSON with him. There are just TOO MANY scriptures to quote as proof of this. Go read your Old Testament is all I have to say.
Even Christ preached that God is ALONE and is ONE.
Mark 12: 29
And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
While your argument is sound in that verse 1 speaks of the Word, and verse 2 also, therefore verse 3 must also speak of the Word is sound, however not in regard to THE PERSON of God mentioned in verses 1 and 2. These verses do not establish proof that the Word spoken of here is a PERSON at all, one must ALREADY BELIEVE THAT in order to READ these verses this way. So your argument is circular in nature, for you proceed under the assumption that the Word is a PERSON here, then use that assumption as the proof that the word is a PERSON.
Since it says "him" in verse 3, it can ONLY be talking about a PERSON. Context dictates which PERSON is being discussed in verse 3 (in both Greek and English). Since the ONLY PERSON herein mentioned in the chapter is GOD, we KNOW that "him" is a reference, not to the WORD, but to GOD, the PERSON. This is COMMON SENSE.
You said even if it said "it" in verse 3 it would make no difference. It most certainly WOULD make a huge difference, because the use of the word IT would make it clear it's speaking of the WORD, but since it says "him" and the ONLY HIM being spoken of thus far is GOD, we do know verse 3 is talking about GOD, and not the WORD.
You then said "don't believe me, read verse 4 and ask yourself who the "him" is"
Okay let's do that:
4 In him (God) was life; and the life was the light of men.
I have no problem with it. It's talking about God there as well, for God is the only HIM ever mentioned thus far in the TEXT!
Let's continue on:
5 And the light (which was IN GOD) shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
I have no problem with the LIGHT being God and IN GOD as well. According to your reasoning the LIGHT must be a person as well (otherwise as you've argued, why mention it at all?) So now there are FOUR God persons in the Godhead, according to the way your read it. God the Light being the fourth.
Let's continue reading:
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
Okay, now there's another PERSON introduced into the text. John. From here on it will have to be specific when it uses a personal pronoun so that we know if it is talking about John, or God.
Verse 7:
7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
We know that John the Baptist came to bear witness of the Christ. So is Christ the LIGHT?
If so, this makes the Light a PERSON and by your reasoning, the very fact the Light is mentioned means that the Light is another person of God.
Verse 4 did not say that God is the light, it says that the LIFE that was IN GOD is the light of men. So, if the LIGHT is also a person, then so is the LIFE. Now we have FIVE persons in the Godhead according to your reasoning (otherwise why mention the life? your argument not mine).
John bore witness of the LIGHT which is the LIFE OF MEN that comes forth from God in these last times (eternal life). John came to preach eternal life through Messiah! For this is the message of Christ, he came that we might "have life and have it more abundantly." Yet, being the LIGHT does not make one God Incarnate. If it did then WE too are God incarnate:
Matthew 5:
14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
So we know that while Christ is "the LIGHT" that shines in the darkness (from God) this is not proof that Christ IS God come down to earth (otherwise so are we).
Verse 8:
8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light
Context dictates that the "he" (personal pronoun) in that verse is not God because the LAST PERSON mentioned was John! That is how it works in verses 2 and 3 above as well. The last person mentioned was GOD, so when it uses a personal pronoun it's talking about GOD! This is how MOST LANGUAGES WORK otherwise we have chaos and confusion.
Verse 9:
9 That was the true Light, (the life of men) which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
Now we are getting to the nitty gritty. John makes it clear that he's talking about "the LIGHT" that was created in the BEGINNING when God SAID (God's Word) "let there be light." This light of which John speaks is not CREATOR, but is CREATED. If you are going
to say that the Light is a PERSON, and is Christ, you've just admitted that Christ is CREATED, for Christ is "the light that shines on every man who comes into the world" and that light was CREATED by the WORD in Genesis.
Obviously, you are now theologically in a quandary for your teaching and reading has made Christ a created being, for he is "the LIGHT" and the light was CREATED and is NOT GOD! If the Light IS God, then there is a fourth and a fifth person in the Godhead. God The Light, and God The Life.
Verse 10:
10 He (God) was in the world, and the world was made by him (God), and the world knew him (God) not.
The only two persons mentioned in the text so far were God and John. Since we know John did not create the world we know that "he" in this verse and "him" in this verse is GOD! (Otherwise, you've made the LIGHT a PERSON and we now have a QUADRINITY).
God was in the world from the very beginning. He walked and talked with Adam. His Spirit strove with the House of Israel for centuries and yet in all that time they could not comprehend him fully and kept disobeying him.
11 He (God) came unto his own (Israel), and his own (Israel) received him not.
God had come to Israel time and time again and they continually did not receive him. So it came time to redeem them another way. by sending the POWER to become the SONS OF GOD.
12 But as many as received him, (God) to them gave he power to become the sons of God, (Christ) even to them that believe on his (God's) name:
13 Which were born (they that received him), not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
14 And the Word (God) was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his God's glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
The Word of God was "made flesh" because Christ DECLARED the Father unto us. (We see this in John 1: 18). John the Apostle has introduced a new "him." Namely "the Word made flesh." Which is Christ. So, in the next verse the personal pronoun is going to be a reference to Christ, the Word made flesh.
15 John bare witness of him, (the Word made flesh) and cried, saying, This was he (the Word made flesh) of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.
As you can see, the ONLY way John 1:1-14 teach DEITY of CHRIST is if it is PRECONCEIVED and INSERTED into the text while reading.

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