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PotatoDragon: Is it correlation or causation, though? Is pressure to not be gay what causes actual lesbians/gay men to develop mental illnesses? Are we viewing it the wrong way?

Just for fun, I'd like to add: What do you think causes people to be straight? Why does it exist? (For the sake of fun, let's avoid the obvious answers and get creative)

I Don't like them puttin chemicals in the water that turn the freakin frogs gay

I mean there's a biological explanation for everything biological lol. A person's sexuality is biological and thus has an explanation.

son, schizophrenia is a better example because both of them effect our behaviour. Yet, dark skin is not a defect due to the simple fact that our early generation had that skin so white skin is the defect. The skin change it's colour to better suit the inviroment just like changing behaviour would do. The main problem is that homosexuallity is a defect which harm the species by stop the indevidual from reproduction. I would suggest that u will learn biology before you claim things such as "alabaster skin is a defect? I wouldn't think so."

Oh okay, yeah I was probably wrong about that part, sorry

I’m not gay but I understand what makes a hot guy hot.

Hmm another percentage I'm doubtful of. Especially, since it's impossible to get an actual percentage on homeless people. Many people who will say they're homeless are actually not. The even sadder thing is being a fake homeless person is a good source of income.

I already cleared up that's there's a clear difference in the chemicals that make up the brain and homosexuality. The human race wouldn't survive if that's the norm? I'm actually highly doubtful of that as there's artificial insemination. If you think I'm making shit up you can look up the brain scans yourself. I've gotten all of this information from my grandmother and she actually studies genetics for a living. I can't say the same for you.

And I'd like you to look at unbiased studies instead of one's which are clearly biased. After all, any bias in science will ruin a whole experiment.

What about the high trans suicide rat

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1 in 5 adults in America experience mental illness every year. Yet only 3-4 percent is homosexual. Yet having a mental illness isn’t something that the body wants to happen, it just happens as an accident, usually. I don’t think it’s to small to be an accident, as it does go against logic. I’m not homophobic or anything though and I want to debate this with you.

A good writer should list there sources for their argument, which I forgot to do. https://www.nami.org/Learn-More/Mental-Health-By-the-Numbers This is the NAMI page about it. So why do you think it’s to small to be unintended if more adults experience mental illness

That's actually something I've never really thought about, very good point. My initial thought is that homosexuality is something that has been seen across the entire animal kingdom, for very likely millions of years. The rise of mental illness is due to things occurring in very recent times (in respect to how long it takes evolution to occur). Evolution takes millions of years to occur. For example, when you eat a lot of high calorie food, your body stores it as fat to use later for energy. This gave humans an evolutionary advantage as it meant that you could survive for longer periods of times without eating food and using the fat stored on your body. However, now a days, it would be more beneficial if we didn't store so much fat on our bodies, and we just got rid of it, since we have abundant sources of food in first world countries. but evolution takes an extremely long time to occur. My point here being that homosexuality has been around much longer than mental illness has, which means that evolution/natural selection has not had enough time to evolve humans to be more capable of dealing with mental illness. This is all just speculation, don't take what I'm saying as facts.

Also I do want to add, where did you get the "3-4% of people are homosexual"? Is it 3-4% of people who identify as homosexual, as that would be a far lower number than the percentage of homosexual people.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_demographics_of_the_United_States Homosexuality is a minority. Also, I believe that in previous years, it could’ve been many things from just wanting to be different to others to mental illness to just being different from the normal population, and for some reason having an attraction to the same sex. Now? It’s mostly that last one and attention seekers. Yunno, THAT kind of gay person. Who wants you to know with every piece of yourself they’re gay, despite the fact you don’t care. thankfully I’ve never met anyone like that in person or on the internet. Just seen them.

41% That's higher than the suicide rate of either Civil War-era slaves or Jews in concentration camps during the Holocaust. There is no possible way that trans people are oppressed more than these groups were, therefore it only stands to reason that there must be some sort of internal factor, such as mental disorders, that is driving them to kill themselves. It is not supported by any research whatsoever that humoring their delusions would improve these conditions by any margin. In fact, it could quite possibly make it worse by encouraging the festering disorders. As for causation versus correlation in terms of homosexuals with mental disorders, I'm sure it is a combination of both depending on individual cases. Sure, societal pressure can mess people up. But there's absolutely no way that all cases can be that way. This is especially true with the recent swell of support for the LGBT community.

Either way, do not trust percentages like how many people are homosexual, or how many people are homeless. You're only setting yourself up to ignorance by trusting percentages that have a high chance of being inaccurate. It's even less accurate than if you were to calculate something simple like college debt. The fact is you can't have actual percentages of homosexuality because it's not systematically recorded. Especially, since answering your sexuality is rarely asked and if it is, it's optional.