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Ban Appeal

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Humanistic

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Minecraft username: Shamanistic
Ban/mute reason: Spawn Killing
Banned/muted by: Tobberz
Why you should be unbanned/unmuted:

I'd like to first start by saying I am 21 years old and I only hop on the server so often. I could care less for being petty on a mineman server and doing something so extremely out of the way and inconvenient for other players is definitely not nor has it been at any point on my priorities. I'd like to explain that the 23 second video that was submitted was clipped in such a way that did not showing them attacking out or retreating back in when the 'Spawn Killing' that occurred literally using the Spawn Point as a way to flank the people running towards the flag from our own spawn point. It also doesn't show the person spawning in from the lobby in order for it to be considered spawn killing but decided to leave it at a 23 second clipping. Anyway, when I did notice that they were spawning in the place that was actually right next to our own spawn they decided to block themselves in which is when I noticed what had been going on so I went for the primary capture point instead of fighting them.

I had no knowledge at first that the small room was a spawn point to begin with, nor do i think i should have been punished for it because they were attacking us as well which did eventually lead to their victory. If we didn't attack we might as well had sat on our asses and let them rack up the kills. I think others that were banned made good points about the reputation of this video seeing as it did not include anything after or before the clippings that they made which would also mean they would have the original video that contained the full clip. I would also like to consider the fact that the ones who wanted to submit the ban upon us also explained that their job was not to show what was happening other than the rule that was being broken, meaning they would not reveal the clip the show the full story because they job is to ban us, not to show us skirmishing and being flanked.

In my complete opinion, this ban was petty and uncalled for. It was not a mistake the people who filed the ban report made nor was it my teams fault, but rather whoever screwed up the code or decided to throw a spawn point right next to the attacker spawn point and create that type of situation to occur. This is also not to mention that you are allowed to actually choose your spawn point which means after they died, they were not forced to go back to that area and ultimately decided to use it as a strategic flaw.
 
I have more-or-less the same response to this as I did to WhiteDireWolf's appeal, which you can find here.

I reccomend you read that for the body of my argument, but to summarise: Yes, it is entirely possible that RobRem could have walked back into spawn, then videoed himself getting killed by you four. However, the evidence Olex and I had was of someone getting spawnkilled, which was obviously against the rules, and there isn't evidence against that.

You mention the issues Helm's has with spawns, for instance that you 'didn't realise' that it was a spawn, and it is ill-placed, etc. I will work to fix this, as I repeatedly told you in discord.

You are clearly trying to put across an air of being 'reasonable' in this report, which your behaviour in discord does not reflect. Again and again I told you to stop flaming in #general, and make a report. Let us take a look at your reactions to that:

Although you mentioned that "Personally i feel noone is at fault here", you clearly changed your mind after you realised that I was actually going to keep my word and ban people for ignoring my request for you to use the proper appeal procedure. You have repeatedly mentioned your age, which quite frankly I don't give a damn about, and won't help you out at all.

You have clear utter distain for the system, but unlike WhiteDireWolf you don't seem to have changed your ways, and only became more unpleasant after his ban: "Nah, i didnt need to be banned in the first place that's petty as fuck. Blame yourselves for fucking up spawn locations. Im not getting unbanned, not worth going through the trouble."

Then you made your greatest mistake....

"Fuck you Tobberz shitty ass mod :smiley:
Ban me from discord too idc.
im not appealing.
cya"

TL;DR: I'd have unbanned you if you had been polite, reasonable and civil. But you weren't. You clearly don't give a damn about the system or the server. Your ban will expire in 2 and a half hours, so there really isn't even much point me denying this report (but I will do anyway).

Discord-wise, I'll keep your ban there for a little while. Judging by your behaviour, I'm not sure if we really want you even talking there.

*locked*
 
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