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EW after the "balance" update

assassiniv

assassiniv

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i took a few screenshots while i got slaughtered by X2 more defenders and half of them are rangers and mages was playing the old-new map cove.
after an update that was called the "balance" update i thought that the rario would get better, gues I was excepecting too much from our "beloved" staff team.
note that the unbalanced ratio start before players left so saying "ThE aTtAcKeRs LeFt" is not a point (even though after 5 min of getting spawn killed some of them left).
The beggining of the game:
https://imgur.com/a/AdfuQ
More players join the attackers game and more bloody donors join the defenders who clearly have larger numbers but dont blame them if they noly care about their kdr:
https://imgur.com/a/F5HOO
Finally a balanced team? what reliefuck this they got more donors
https://imgur.com/a/EPVK8
5 min into spawn killing and your team looks like this
https://imgur.com/WplEnl2


P.S yes i am salty and the is not working for some reason deal with it.
 
a) That map is removed
b) What would you do about team balance? I personally think the point method, although imperfect, is *far* better than the situation before.
 
This opinion is my own and I believe is not shard by the staff team.

The "Beloved" Staff team created the 'balance' update to make support classes better and more relevant. (clearly this needs work) We can not prevent players from leaving, nor force them to swap team. We have implemented a reward for balancing teams and for now, that is all we can implement until a new idea arises. In the future, if you are going to make a post criticising others and the way they do their job, make sure you either have a better idea yourself, or have evidence that isn't completely irrelevant to your point. (You used screenshots of empty games, this does not reflect the average siege game)

I would like to stress, this is not a personal attack on you assassiniv, I just find it annoying that you could go on such a personal rant without feeling that it is attacking others.
 
Antzorg said:
This opinion is my own and I believe is not shard by the staff team.

The "Beloved" Staff team created the 'balance' update to make support classes better and more relevant. (clearly this needs work) We can not prevent players from leaving, nor force them to swap team. We have implemented a reward for balancing teams and for now, that is all we can implement until a new idea arises. In the future, if you are going to make a post criticising others and the way they do their job, make sure you either have a better idea yourself, or have evidence that isn't completely irrelevant to your point. (You used screenshots of empty games, this does not reflect the average siege game)

I would like to stress, this is not a personal attack on you assassiniv, I just find it annoying that you could go on such a personal rant without feeling that it is attacking others.
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M8, all I'm saying that the balance update didn't really balanced anything.
The team ratio is still fcked up in most maps (took cove as an extreme example)
There is no need to force players to swamp or prevent them from leaving if only the ratio would be ok on the first place (not 2; when the 2 are defenders)

I am currently working on my own idea and will suggest it when it will actually work (also I'm waiting for the new idea swarm to stop)
Also nothing personal not against you, I'm just pissed that the team ratio is fcked up and it's not like the players will switch sides coz they will clearly loose the points that they earned and loose their most important stat kdr
 
assassiniv said:
M8, all I'm saying that the balance update didn't really balanced anything.
The team ratio is still fcked up in most maps (took cove as an extreme example)
There is no need to force players to swamp or prevent them from leaving if only the ratio would be ok on the first place (not 2; when the 2 are defenders)

I am currently working on my own idea and will suggest it when it will actually work (also I'm waiting for the new idea swarm to stop)
Also nothing personal not against you, I'm just pissed that the team ratio is fcked up and it's not like the players will switch sides coz they will clearly loose the points that they earned and loose their most important stat kdr
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The funny thing is that you're using a map as example that has been removed for almost two full months. Team ratio isn't fucked up at all, it's actually often very balanced. You don't often see the chat spam "switch for balance, gain 30 points!" because people almost instantly switch. Of course it's not always the case, but it happens a lot. The balancing changes made the maps a lot more balanced. You may say it's still crap, but compared to what it was, it really really isn't. We can't force people to switch, and some maps will always remain 7:10, 5:10, or other ratios instead of 1:1.

People leave when the enemy is winning for a long time. This is and has always been the case. The only way to prevent this is to make every single flag impossible to defend. Because even if it's hard to defend, if the defending team is really good and they manage, you would call the game unbalanced.

Edit: Another point is that balance is almost impossible to keep good when under 10 people fighting. This is because one single quit can greatly change the balance. Our server isn't made for 2v2 battles, it's made for big battles.
 
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