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Gandalf or dumbeldore, you choose

Anyone who defends Dumbledore here clearly has no notion of what a Maia is or what Gandalf has accomplished.
Read your lore.

And for the record, I think they'd sit down together over a butterbeer while Gandalf showed Dumbledore some fancy smoke rings.
 
Look, Gandalf cant make a sea of fire, or kill something in 3 secs. Dumbledore would just say Avada Kedavra. Morgoth is dead. See what I mean. Dumbledore could just say Reducto and blast minas tirith apart. He can bring objects to life, like statues and make them fight for him. Dumbledore would kill the balrog in a few second by saying Avada Kedavra, the killing curse kills anything it touches.
I kno a bit about The Maia, spirits in human form, sent by the Valar, who r like gods. But hp spells r deadlier than any lotr magic. They r two different worlds, truelly, no one can say who is better. But I think Dumblefore would just kill anyone in lotr in a few seconds.
 
This is pathetic. Even a single supporter of Dumbledore makes me blown away by the idiocy of the argument.
The power of the magic user depends upon the world that they are in. Dumbledore, were he shipped to Lord of the Rings, would be essentially powerless, for the limitations of magic are much harsher and stricter in Lord of the Rings.
If Gandalf were to be in the Harry Potter universe?
He could blast a temporal hollow in the world with his unrestrained might. Dies irae. Endgame. Ragnarok. Apocalypse. Armageddon. Rapture. The end of all things.
 
I'm just going to say that gandalf Is alive and powerful, dumbledore is dead, although like sauron said, they would probobaly like each other. They are very similar.
 
Albus Dumbledore... He would beat Gandalf in a heart beet. Even, if Gandalf was smarter Dumbledore could use Legilimency on Gandalf, and quickly come up with a genius plan. Now, Dumbledore would win in a fight, he knows the most powerful spells, Gandalf may know some pretty good magic, but nowhere near as good as Dumbledore's, Even if Gandalf injured Dumbledore badly, he could use some spells which would heal him instantly, such as Terago, Episkey, and Vulnera San. Now Gandalf may have a few handy toys in his pockets, but Dumbledore would be far greater, Gandalf may be a servant of the gods, but Dumbledore is far more powerful. I'd say it would be a pretty equal fight.
 
Here's the thing though - the Harry Potter world is limited by spells, unlike the LotR world. In the LotR world, some people have the ability to do magic by transforming their strength into energy. Therefore LotR characters are INCREDIBLY stronger than one who is only able to utilize magic through a wand.
If magic is pure energy directed via a strong will, no words are needed and the unthinkable can be accomplished as a result of pure instinct guiding the user. This means that any spell cast can be countered without even knowing exactly what it is, as long as the person is strong enough.
Gandalf is incredibly strong. Dumbledore, though strong in his own right, still requires a wand and words to channel power. A wizard of LotR has no such limitations.
 
Most of you are blind besides Lord_Sauron_ because, Gandalf didn't use too many powerful spells because he never needed to, he would mostly fight with the FoeHammer and his staff, if it were dire, he would use better magic, which you guys think he doesn't have, When facing the Balrog, yes breaking a bridge wasn't much, but it was the fastest way to get rid of him. Keep this in mind now.
 
Also, Gandalf was never afraid of death, he had to die, so did Dumbledore, Gandalf with the Balrog, and Dumbledore, to save Harry.
 
Electric_Ice777 said:
Also, Gandalf was never afraid of death, he had to die, so did Dumbledore, Gandalf with the Balrog, and Dumbledore, to save Harry.
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He didn't really die to save Harry but rather Draco(Voldemort wouldn't have liked if Draco/Severus had failed)and actually Dumbledore was already doomed to death because of curse in his hand(horcruxes can be suprisingly dangerous).Yess, Dumbledore's death took death eaters' attention out from Harry but I can't really call it dieing because of Harry because the death was the sum of many factors and actually he had no way to escape(when Gandalf had).

Gandalf died simply to save the other fellowship(run away or fight against tens of metres tall monster to save fellowship with little chance?).
Edit:Well, Gandalf cheated little because he came back from death but it just showed how great his power is. :D
 
Ok you you potter and lotr fans, i'm putting my foot down.
Gandalf cheated death and came back more powerful, Dumbledore died and didn't come back.
Therefore Gandalf is more powerful and would win in a fight.
 
To 'kill' Gandalf, a Balrog of Morgoth was needed.
To kill Dumbledore a simple spell.
Therefore Gandalf is way more powerful.
(And gandalf killed the balrog as will whilst dieing)
 
It is by the way pretty interesting that they never used guns in HP. Death Eaters with guns(with some awesome magic.Infinite bullets for instance) would have been far more effective than avada kedavra :p
 
Mhm, there would be plenty of spells which could block bullets easily, and it isn't really a 'Bang Bang' book/movie, it's better using wands instead of guns.
 
teamjoshben7 said:
Dumbledore could use 1 spell to kill a balrog.
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[quote name="Logic"]Here's the thing though - the Harry Potter world is limited by spells, unlike the LotR world. In the LotR world, some people have the ability to do magic by transforming their strength into energy. Therefore LotR characters are INCREDIBLY stronger than one who is only able to utilize magic through a wand.
If magic is pure energy directed via a strong will, no words are needed and the unthinkable can be accomplished as a result of pure instinct guiding the user. This means that any spell cast can be countered without even knowing exactly what it is, as long as the person is strong enough.
Gandalf is incredibly strong. Dumbledore, though strong in his own right, still requires a wand and words to channel power. A wizard of LotR has no such limitations.[/quote]
 
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