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nice idea

I think it's a good idea but, it would take a lot of money to create this system. To be honest, I don't see the point of even having a gun right, if you feel that you need to carry around a gun with you, to stay safe, then it clearly isn't a safe environment to live in anyway. I don't think people should be able to have guns at all, since they only encourage violence rather than, stop it. Instead of guns, there should be Other devices which DON'T KILL but, stop a criminal, That would inevitably lower the amount of violence and would lower the amount of mass shootings.

I agree. In Britain, normal POLICEMEN don't even have guns. This result in a very no-guns environment, as many criminals don't feel the need to go to lengths in order to aquire a gun, since the police isn't using guns against them. And now there might be people saying: "Well, technically, the criminals could get guns and than the police would look pretty darn stupid." And that is true. But do you hear about that many bobbies getting shot? Well... not really. Because the criminals feel like they don't need guns. In the US, however, sometimes the most lowlevel small record weed dealer has a gun... what the heck guys?

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Even with this system, I'm sure criminals will find ways to acquire guns without these trackers.

Yeah but it would greatly reduce it, so your average day drunk guy can't just buy a assault rifle and walk into a school with one.

Also, in a lot of mass shootings, the attacker doesn't even plan on surviving, so the threat of the police coming might mean little to them. Many of these shooters die on purpose rather than be arrested. I'm sure that this sort of system would stop a lot of crime, but I'm not sure if this system would stop these mass shootings.

Exactly, It would be easier to get rid of the guns than make this system but if you are in the US like me, its not that easy to convince the government to do so, Amercian is obsessed with their guns. If you tried to get rid of guns the NRA, republicans and most amercians would just disaprove of it. Amercian is more likely to accept this system then just get rid of all their guns x.x

I agree. This system would stop crimes like robberies, but I doubt it will even effect mass shooters. Most terrorists/mass shooters are pretty intelligent, and dont plan on doing anything legally, which includes getting their weapons. This would be a great system for robberies and smaller crimes, but not for mass shooters. Personally I think that somethings may reduce the amount of them, but they will never go away permanently.

You could also just not sell automatic weapons or too big of guns, or possibly have it so like during the depression you had ration stamps and you turned them in for food and sugar, etc. you could have something like that for bullets so you can't ever get to many

Terrorists kill for their political or religious views, while mass shooters just kill for fun or a reason like that, but yeah basically this system could be made to reduce crime/slow it down/make it harder to use weapons for crime

The purpose of the "right to bear arms" is so states have the ability to declare independence, not so people can "I have a gun". Individuals should not carry weapons, the state should. states should get nukes, have their own armies, etc. the national army should not even exist, we are the united states that should basically be different countries but band together in times of need. England does not share its army with france does it?, why should all the states have 1 army that DC controls?.

you kinda went off topic there, and like I said, this is a way of making guns a bit safer instead of getting rid of all the guns, since its basically impossible to do that in the US

The independent states should have nukes. Yup, best idea I've heard today. It's not like idiots such as Trump are ALREADY dangerously close to controlling nuclear weaponry, no, YOU are suggesting that EVERY senator should hold his own nuclear arsenal. Brilliant. That'll, most definitely, make the world a safer place, I'm sure...

[user]12682803[/user] the united states was designed to be different countries in all but war time when they united, countries have nukes so states should to. unless constitutional amendments are made to change that, it should currently be something states can do. Now I agree that states having nukes is a bit much, but just because something is a problem does not make it not legal. as we are currently ignoring the fact that states should be able to have nukes, ignoring that means the united states is not legitimate and does not follow its own rules. [user]4393394[/user] It is not off topic, you are discussing the right to bear arms. I am saying that we have misunderstood the reason it is there. thinking anyone should be able to have guns.

Well that is one stupid argument. Just because something is legal, that doesn't mean it SHOULD be legal. It SHOULDN'T be legal for a state to have its own nuke arsenal. That is just a stock of mass destruction weapons that is way to easy to get to. This can be compared to the "Get off my land!" issue. It is, technically, legal to shoot a normal person in America if he/she is on your land without your permission. It is legal. Should it be legal? Well... There are people who crash their car, manage to drag themselves to a house, knock on the door to ask for help and get shot. There are people who just walk onto private ground because there is no fence and they simply don't KNOW it is such... and get shot. So, in my opinion, the argument you offered is really not a good one.

Okay Idk where you guys got these ideas but -I didn't say anything about nukes -I rather get rid of all the guns but its not like I can just tell the government to burn the second amendment and expect them to listen to me -I Never said everyone or even anyone should own a gun -All I'm saying is just a concept that could be accepted by the goverment to make stuff safer(Like I said it would be almost impossible to get rid of all the guns in the US without force), idk where or how tf you guys got the idea that I wanted eevery stateto own a nukes or everyone should own assult rifles.

The early United States worked like this under the Articles of Confederation, but the system sucked.

we were not talking about your opinion ender, we were talking about our own opinion on the matter.