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(This is by the end of the century, by the way. At 2050 it will be about 9 billion. I do recognize that abortion is not a morally correct or remotely efficient way to deal with it.)

Opinions are like buttholes; everybody has one.

Good. Over Population is really only a problem in the crowded cities. Currently, we have enough room to spare for many more yesrs

Some are big, some are small, some are unnoticeable, some are smelly, dirty, and all up in your face.

And keep in mind that yes everyone has a different butthole, but not every butthole is healthy, safe, or normal. It doesn't matter if you believe it or not, facts are facts.

I strongly disagree with you. It should be a parent's choice on if they want an abortion or not. Yes, killing may be wrong to some people, but in a situation where it is necessary for someone to die, it must be done. If a woman cannot financially support herself, the incoming child, and anyone else, she should be able to have an abortion to help her.

"Facts are facts" I thought we were talking about opinions.

We are, but opinions can't be used to disprove facts

If she can't support a child she should be having sex in the first place. An what makes her life any more valuable than the babies?

Perhaps there was an accident during sex, and she became pregnant via said accident. And she, to be frank, is more useful and can contribute more to society than a baby. And what makes a baby more valuable than a developed person?

No one is saying that your statistic about wartime casualties versus abortion deaths is inaccurate, I'm just saying that everyone has their opinion and no opinion is more or less correct than any other.

Nothing makes them more valuable. If she wasn't trying to have a baby, she shouldn't be having sex. They are equally valuable, which means she, nor anyone else, has an right to kill her

*the baby

True but what if the parent knows they will abuse there child/know there life will be very hard, I would rather kill my child than have to know that. (Btw I'm not for abortion but in some circumstances it's good or correct)

Right, and I'm saying that that is correct unless one opinion agrees with a fact, while another doesnt

"Sorry son, I would rather kill you than abuse you" sort of self defeating. Killing someone else should only be done in self defense

It doesn't seem morbid to the eyes of others because of this so called "pain" that doesn't occur on those children, since they did not fully develop their system. It's a stupid excuse tbh, used everywhere. In the Philippines, my dad enjoys balut which is a Filipino street food. It's basically an egg which includes a bird that was about to be born but boiled and eaten. His excuse was always related to pain, which is pretty stupid because if that excuse is official, I can easily shoot an endangered egg or kill the undeveloped baby on the inside of an animal and say I'm not a scumbag.

I agree and disagree with your statement but the fact that 4-7 billion people (idk how much people really. Just a guess, but I'm sure there's a lot) in the world never stood up and say this "feeling pain" reason is pretty retarded makes me feel like I'm at my biology class 24/7 while having my balls shaved (don't take that roast seriously though)

Well to be fair most of our wars recently have been for Imperialism. There was no good reason to be in The Middle East in the first place. The Revolutionary War, The War of 1812, The Civil War, WW1(though I probably would've been anti WW1 if I were alive then) and WW2 are the only wars that are justifiable for US involvement to me.

And also I choose to now debate abortion it's not something you can change someone's mind on imo