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On the Subject of Nazgul Nerf and Donors Departing

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Pythonawe

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Many of you guys know that nazgul was nerfed. I must admit I do not agree with this nerf, but tim was doing it for good intentions. The nerf wasn't a nerf, it ruined the class. Tim, you are doing a great job on this server and your hard work and effort is much respected, but this nerf truly was a mistake. Every donor is leaving, and I feel I might too. Nazgul was the only "good" class i had left, and the nerf just ruined it. The 2nd and 3rd best players have left, many leaving too.

As you see in this video, they can destroy a nazgul. I only got 1 kill that life. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFOUIh66dMs&feature=youtu.be

The nerf's reactions were so negative most of the players who realized it was nerfed quit. Many donors I fear will leave. Can you please remove the nazgul nerf? You are listening to noobs spamming "its to OP. i dont like it nerf it" Nazgul doesnt need a nerf. I will not play on the siege server until you remove the nerf. I am doing this as well as others to make sure that donors who are my freinds dont leave this great server. It truly saddens me to see our top players leave when they added this nerf. I as many other players also feel saddened, and we will not be playing on siege until the nerf is removed. We do love your server tim, its just you cant expect us to like everything you do. I admire you and I hope you listen to all the posts about this nerf.

Sincerely, Python.
 
I am one of them leaving siege. I have never been naz, but I am annoyed with more then just that. Bye.

Oh, and think of the movie and book. Were nazguls really that easy to kill? Just think about it
 
"top players" as in players who are to nooby to get good kdr/ks with normal classes. who arent any better then the "noobs" they make fun of. one time i saw a nazgul insulting and calling a player they spawn killed and if not spawn killed went in building after to kill. i think the donors attitude towards these "noobs" might get fixed with this nerf. you also have to take into consideration how many "noobs" left and probably wont come back before the nerf and how many will come now that the nerf has happend
arakrsptec said:
I am one of them leaving siege. I have never been naz, but I am annoyed with more then just that. Bye.

Oh, and think of the movie and book. Were nazguls really that easy to kill? Just think about it
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this is a pvp server. stuff is meant to be balanced and fair now that the eula is in effect.
 
Tim, I absolutely love this server, and you're probably the best owner I've ever known you do such a good job. But everyone makes mistakes once in a while and this is one of them. I don't want to do this but honestly having OP nazguls was even fun to me, it makes it an accomplishment if I kill one. I was also saving up and was going to buy it, I needed another 15k. I'm doing this for the good of the server, as well as for the good of the donators who payed good money for that nazgul, as well as the server when I say that I'm with python all the way.
 
Lagy_Paladin said:
"top players" as in players who are to nooby to get good kdr/ks with normal classes. who arent any better then the "noobs" they make fun of. one time i saw a nazgul insulting and calling a player they spawn killed and if not spawn killed went in building after to kill. i think the donors attitude towards these "noobs" might get fixed with this nerf. you also have to take into consideration how many "noobs" left and probably wont come back before the nerf and how many will come now that the nerf has happend
[quote user_id="7396155" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/arakrsptec/74.png" name="arakrsptec"]I am one of them leaving siege. I have never been naz, but I am annoyed with more then just that. Bye.

Oh, and think of the movie and book. Were nazguls really that easy to kill? Just think about it
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this is a pvp server. stuff is meant to be balanced and fair now that the eula is in effect.[/quote]


They have played this server for many years and took the time to get top player, doesnt matter how they did. They had to be active to keep it up, therefor they play a lot. People who play a lot do not leave the server about most things, but the nerf was a bad idea. Tim had good intentions, but everyone makes mistakes.

Nazgul aren't "balanced" The reason people save up points for 8 months is to buy a powerful class better then all the others. With the nerf they are worse then a great goblin. 25K is more then most donors have collected in their total time on the server. Well as an experinced nazgul i get 1 kill and viktor and weby only get 2 kills.
 
Every since Nazgul was made a point class, Mkroets and I have been combining our funds to save up and buy it for me. I'm not at 18-19k and with this new nerf, I'll never be able to get my points back. Spending 25k to be hung from an overgrown chicken is a huge waste. I know that Tim is a good guy, he's been running this server for a long time, but everybody makes mistakes. This mistake could cost this server a fair chunk of the donors, and many experienced players.
Anaaron said:
I don't want to do this but honestly having OP nazguls was even fun to me, it makes it an accomplishment if I kill one.
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It was such a huge achievement to kill a single nazgul. I mean, you just killed a super OP class, and it rewards as many points as the nazgul got kills, which usually made up for your losses and more. I know that Tim is busy and sometimes can't fix things when we need. He has his own life outside of minecraft. I respect him very much for putting together this wonderful server. But, seriously, aren't Nazguls supposed to be OP? If you really needed to nerf Nazgul, then maybe make the hitbox a little larger, or lower the armour of health. But this is far beyond a nerf. You didn't nerf the Nazgul, you killed it.
 
Ajroets said:
Every since Nazgul was made a point class, Mkroets and I have been combining our funds to save up and buy it for me. I'm not at 18-19k and with this new nerf, I'll never be able to get my points back. Spending 25k to be hung from an overgrown chicken is a huge waste. I know that Tim is a good guy, he's been running this server for a long time, but everybody makes mistakes. This mistake could cost this server a fair chunk of the donors, and many experienced players. [quote user_id="10631667" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/Anaaron/74.png" name="Anaaron"]I don't want to do this but honestly having OP nazguls was even fun to me, it makes it an accomplishment if I kill one.
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It was such a huge achievement to kill a single nazgul. I mean, you just killed a super OP class, and it rewards as many points as the nazgul got kills, which usually made up for your losses and more. I know that Tim is busy and sometimes can't fix things when we need. He has his own life outside of minecraft. I respect him very much for putting together this wonderful server. But, seriously, aren't Nazguls supposed to be OP? If you really needed to nerf Nazgul, then maybe make the hitbox a little larger, or lower the armour of health. But this is far beyond a nerf. You didn't nerf the Nazgul, you killed it.[/quote]
SUPER OP???????????????????????? Nazgul sucks man, it always has. It takes skill, but does anyone understand this? noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo noooooooooooooootttttttt aaaaaaaaaaaaattttttttt aaaaaaaaaallllllllll
 
Sorry if my message got lost a little, I meant it can be super OP if played well. Some people have gotten over 100 kills with it. But there is no possible way to get even half that with this new "Nazgul".
 
Old naz was op, but not super op like dwarf archers in great halls :p, when you got used to it and knew how to play it. Even then I still make bad errors with it, like picking up Anrza or Md. The class could have a cool down on pick up in my opinion but anything beyond that? Not really unless you wanted to give it weakness, I don't think any Naz-Gul killed anyone with a sword through all of the books and movies except one hobbit in the shire?

The nerf honestly didn't need to be this harsh. I would suggest playing the class for a while, like nonstop for a day or two, Tim to get your own view on it rather than taking others. Maybe tell us of upcoming changes in the new newsletter or on the home page to get all our opinions on it as well?

This new naz sounds like a flying ladderer :p. Why have a pickup ability if it is suicidal to do so. Makes more sense to remove than have the chance of accidentally using this by mistake while in combat doesn't it? Maybe the class should get 10 ladders and some wood to make up for the loss of this new ability? I would personally find it hilarious to play as "The Flying Ladderer" class :p

As for donors leaving that is silly. You liked this server didn't you? You liked it so much you donated money? You liked it while you didn't have special classes? I don't see a problem here.
 
The whole reason your not getting kills is because your used to picking people up now you actually have to fight them. Its like Tim added a new class you don't know how to use it. Also probably should remove pickup. This is basically how nazgul used to be not super op skillful but still good. Get used to it.
 
I agree with the fact that losing strength was pretty bad, and that is basically what happened here. Tim made nazgul worse. You should not need nazgul though to be a good player, personally when you say nazgul should be like in the movie I disagree. If it was like in the movie then 1"no man could kill it" 2" gandalf could barely thwart one" 3" They are the death bringers of Sauron himself. I think that if you base it on the movie you should make it have diamond armor all the way around ender dragon disguise and the ability to destroy what it touches. Would you really want that? I don't that would be to unfair. So i think that if you guys are going to complain that it should be like the movie, I think it should be taken away.
 
The ''nerf'' (Aka bug) reminds me of a champion called Rengar from League of Legends. I mained him, I won like every game with him, he was simply my favourite champion.

4 nerfs further and he's just unplayable now. But at least I don't stop with League of Legends :3
 
I'm also sorta leaving since everyone I like on this server is tired of it and sort of want to leave too...
 
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