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Unfair banning

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LINK: http://www.empirewar.org/forums/m/5312442/viewthread/15266296-eem50-forcefield/post/last#last


The video shows the Eem50 uses forcefield. Atleast, it should. But it doesn't. I personally don't see any sign of forcefield, maybe at the first second when he hits an archer, but that could also just him left clicking him for fun. The rest of the video shows the goblin he killed just (probably) has client-side lag, making him unable to react immediately to Eem50. Other than that, there is nothing that looks like forcefield. Just a dwarf that simply side steps a late attack.

With all due respect Makz & FJ, but this report and ban is unfair.
 
Steinhoff3 said:
I agree, seems to be alot of unfair bannings lately..
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Just because you are banned doesn't mean you should post on other report the staff is banning falsely.
Don't do this again unless you want a website ban as well.


[quote user_id="2931363" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/Mr_CookieSmurf/74.png" name="Mr_CookieSmurf"]LINK: http://www.empirewar.org/forums/m/5312442/viewthread/15266296-eem50-forcefield/post/last#last


The video shows the Eem50 uses forcefield. Atleast, it should. But it doesn't. I personally don't see any sign of forcefield, maybe at the first second when he hits an archer, but that could also just him left clicking him for fun. The rest of the video shows the goblin he killed just (probably) has client-side lag, making him unable to react immediately to Eem50. Other than that, there is nothing that looks like forcefield. Just a dwarf that simply side steps a late attack.

With all due respect Makz & FJ, but this report and ban is unfair.[/quote]
I wasn't 100% sure either, but I did some more research and closely watched the video and it definitely looks like he did hack.
 
sjoerdtim said:
[quote user_id="2573009" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/Steinhoff3/74.png" name="Steinhoff3"]I agree, seems to be alot of unfair bannings lately..
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Just because you are banned doesn't mean you should post on other report the staff is banning falsely.
Don't do this again unless you want a website ban as well.


[quote user_id="2931363" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/Mr_CookieSmurf/74.png" name="Mr_CookieSmurf"]LINK: http://www.empirewar.org/forums/m/5312442/viewthread/15266296-eem50-forcefield/post/last#last


The video shows the Eem50 uses forcefield. Atleast, it should. But it doesn't. I personally don't see any sign of forcefield, maybe at the first second when he hits an archer, but that could also just him left clicking him for fun. The rest of the video shows the goblin he killed just (probably) has client-side lag, making him unable to react immediately to Eem50. Other than that, there is nothing that looks like forcefield. Just a dwarf that simply side steps a late attack.

With all due respect Makz & FJ, but this report and ban is unfair.[/quote]
I wasn't 100% sure either, but I did some more research and closely watched the video and it definitely looks like he did hack.[/quote]

More explanation please? I rewatched it quite a lot, and I don't see anything.
 
Mr_CookieSmurf said:
[quote user_id="960266" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/sjoerdtim/74.png" name="sjoerdtim"][quote user_id="2573009" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/Steinhoff3/74.png" name="Steinhoff3"]I agree, seems to be alot of unfair bannings lately..
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Just because you are banned doesn't mean you should post on other report the staff is banning falsely.
Don't do this again unless you want a website ban as well.


Mr_CookieSmurf said:
LINK: http://www.empirewar.org/forums/m/5312442/viewthread/15266296-eem50-forcefield/post/last#last


The video shows the Eem50 uses forcefield. Atleast, it should. But it doesn't. I personally don't see any sign of forcefield, maybe at the first second when he hits an archer, but that could also just him left clicking him for fun. The rest of the video shows the goblin he killed just (probably) has client-side lag, making him unable to react immediately to Eem50. Other than that, there is nothing that looks like forcefield. Just a dwarf that simply side steps a late attack.

With all due respect Makz & FJ, but this report and ban is unfair.
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I wasn't 100% sure either, but I did some more research and closely watched the video and it definitely looks like he did hack.[/quote]

More explanation please? I rewatched it quite a lot, and I don't see anything.[/quote]
Well, he did turn around pretty quickly.
 
Video not conclusive enough. That's why you gather at least 4-5 REAL evidences before making a report.

I don't really see anything bannable here either. He didn't even "turn quickly".
 
Weby said:
Video not conclusive enough. That's why you gather at least 4-5 REAL evidences before making a report.

I don't really see anything bannable here either. He didn't even "turn quickly".
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All of his actions were pretty normal.


The ''turning quickly'' is very easy to do with a high sensivity mouse. In fact, I can even turn faster with my current mouse.




With all respect Tim, but he doesn't hack.
 
I see extra range. Most staff members on mineplex/hivemc/hypixel would call hacks and perms ban, it's only 10 days. I will wait for an appeal to come up, and from there we could use his side of view. We can't determine if he doesn't hack unless we get his opinion, and I doubt he will return if he gets unbanned or the time expires. I know you guys were trying to help him get unbanned, but he should do a formal appeal if he wants to get unbanned,
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Mr_CookieSmurf said:
[quote user_id="10026907" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/Weby/74.png" name="Weby"]Video not conclusive enough. That's why you gather at least 4-5 REAL evidences before making a report.

I don't really see anything bannable here either. He didn't even "turn quickly".
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All of his actions were pretty normal.


The ''turning quickly'' is very easy to do with a high sensivity mouse. In fact, I can even turn faster with my current mouse.




With all respect Tim, but he doesn't hack.[/quote]
yea he hacked. he went: control panel > mouse > pointer options. and turned the sensitivity to full. easiest way to hack in mc.
 
Even if he didn't hack I doubt he would return, hacked or not. (I saw a bit of kill aura) I am waiting for an appeal, if one doesn't come up soon lock this thread. Off to go surfing cya
 
Pythonawe said:
I see extra range. Most staff members on mineplex/hivemc/hypixel would call hacks and perms ban, it's only 10 days. I will wait for an appeal to come up, and from there we could use his side of view. We can't determine if he doesn't hack unless we get his opinion, and I doubt he will return if he gets unbanned or the time expires. I know you guys were trying to help him get unbanned, but he should do a formal appeal if he wants to get unbanned,
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There is no sign of kill aura, nor ''extra range''. And there is no appeal needed. He didn't hacked, he got banned for 10 days unfair. It's the right thing to simply unban him.



With all respect Python, but how did you even come up with ''extra range''? He hits them just around the normal range. Please contribute something of more value in the future..
 
The only sign that I saw that might hint towards hacking, is how well he tracked the guy he was pvping. That could just be skill, or it could be forcefield or kill aura. Nothing else in the video pointed towards hacking at all.
 
It wasn't even that well, half of his hits were in the air... Come on guys, if you can't do what he did in a 1vs1 pvp situation, you should definitely stop playing games.

And python, seriously, stop. No, there is no "extra range" in there. At all.
 
It didn't show the chat messages, if it was the other Gondor guy killed him. There were 3 peoples but if they all where from the same guy, maybe. (Dont think it t
I is though, quite confusing.)
 
Guys just for telling you, me and makz have looked VERY CLOSELY at it and decided it was forcefield indeed because of the rapid movements.

Plz lock this thread -_-
 
And you also have autoclicked this is the same as forcefield, the rpaid movements and all the hitting on everyone BUT you can be hit if you use it
 
Weby said:
Video not conclusive enough. That's why you gather at least 4-5 REAL evidences before making a report.

I don't really see anything bannable here either. He didn't even "turn quickly".
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4-5 evidences per ban = no one reporting = no bans = hackers get unpunished

I'd rather accidentally ban an innocent person once in a while, than let all hackers roam around freely.

If this person didn't hack, he can make a ban appeal and we'll gladly unban him, but seeing he doesn't either means he doesn't know he can, or that he doesn't bother because he knows he hacked and lying won't help.
 
sjoerdtim said:
[quote user_id="10026907" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/Weby/74.png" name="Weby"]Video not conclusive enough. That's why you gather at least 4-5 REAL evidences before making a report.

I don't really see anything bannable here either. He didn't even "turn quickly".
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4-5 evidences per ban = no one reporting = no bans = hackers get unpunished

I'd rather accidentally ban an innocent person once in a while, than let all hackers roam around freely.

If this person didn't hack, he can make a ban appeal and we'll gladly unban him, but seeing he doesn't either means he doesn't know he can, or that he doesn't bother because he knows he hacked and lying won't help.[/quote]

He doesn't hack. The guy got banned for nothing. In other words, we lost one member for absoluty nothing.
 
Mr_CookieSmurf said:
[quote user_id="960266" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/sjoerdtim/74.png" name="sjoerdtim"][quote user_id="10026907" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/Weby/74.png" name="Weby"]Video not conclusive enough. That's why you gather at least 4-5 REAL evidences before making a report.

I don't really see anything bannable here either. He didn't even "turn quickly".
Click to expand...
4-5 evidences per ban = no one reporting = no bans = hackers get unpunished

I'd rather accidentally ban an innocent person once in a while, than let all hackers roam around freely.

If this person didn't hack, he can make a ban appeal and we'll gladly unban him, but seeing he doesn't either means he doesn't know he can, or that he doesn't bother because he knows he hacked and lying won't help.[/quote]

He doesn't hack. The guy got banned for nothing. In other words, we lost one member for absoluty nothing.[/quote]
It's questionable weather he hacks or not. It could be so, and it could be that it's not.
 
I agree you should wait for him to post an appeal, if he ever does, to unban him.

But at least have people have more conclusive videos... With that kind of "proof", I would have gotten Mark2282 banned at least 20 times.
 
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