If I want to muck around with catapults for a little bit longer instead of killing more dwarves, then I should be able to. Nothing is more annoying than preventing players from doing small things that don't harm anyone.
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Add Useable Catapults to most maps?
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1. Once the gate is broken non of the dwarves go on the walls and killing them is not possible.
2. But it is harming, all of those who play the objective and the rest of the team that sometimes loose the number advantage to a bunch of goblins that like to click on levers (especially when there are few players on the server).
wrong again there 1 to 2 people out of 6 stop exagerating, also the gameplay is becoming so boring, the catapults are bringing new light to the game
1. Once the gate is broken non of the dwarves go on the walls and killing them is not possible.
2. But it is harming, all of those who play the objective and the rest of the team that sometimes loose the number advantage to a bunch of goblins that like to click on levers (especially when there are few players on the server).[/quote]
you actually can angle the catapult to get through the gate and still kill dwarves. And about the objectives, just get over 1-2 out of your team is not gonna kill you. Some people like to have fun
The main problem is that it's not one player. It is mostly more players than 2 players and that's more player than catapults, making it fcking useless.
You probably don't notice that because you play for the kills and to achieve the objective but it attract too many players and not "1 person wants to shoot catapults".[/quote]
again what i said to Weby stop exagerating and even if you get more then 2 people who want to use the catapult, let them it shouldnt be this big of a deal
wrong again there 1 to 2 people out of 6 stop exagerating, also the gameplay is becoming so boring, the catapults are bringing new light to the game[/quote]
I completely agree that it's bringing back the old days of EW, but don't assume 1 to 2 people out of 6 will use the catapult. There is a chance that's there's more than "1 to 2" people. In what Weby said in this case, he is stating about one possibility if we have 7 players in total playing the game, not the exacts. However, the probability he stated above is actually a pretty high one due to Empire War not being a very large server. (no offense [user avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/sjoerdtim/74.png" name="sjoerdtim"]960266[/user]. You still got one of the best servers ever)
So, in other words, it is a big deal. It will counter the sole purpose of what founded Empire War in the first place. If 6-7 orcs take on 10-11 dwarves while the other 3-4 goblins mess around with the catapults, then it would disrupt the balance of the game, along with bringing the whole team down. Yes, some people like to have fun, but that "fun" should include the majority the orc fighters instead of catapult addicts only. After all, we want to bring "new light" or whatever you call it to Empire war, not the minority.
I believe we won the argument due to [user avatar="https://assets-cloud.enjin.com/users/10915100/avatar/small.1406468347.png" name="Turtlebomb66"]10915100[/user] not being able to debunk our points while we debunked all of his points. Turtle you just repeat yourself after we already debunked your points, if you have any new points or think you can debunk our points then make a new post but otherwise don't force us to read the exact same thing but 10 times longer
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It is a big deal when there are few players on the map. Even if you don't count the fact that it's not possible to progress on the map anymore because of those 2-3 "I do what I want" idiots, there's still the problem that you get decimated by the dwarf team once you even try to approach the flag, because they usually play as a team (since they have only the "boring" gameplay) and you can't do much.
It's a lose-lose situation :
- The guys at catapult don't get kills except on VERY RARE occasions where a dwarf happens to be at the wrong place, wrong time
- The orcs that actually play the objective are losing the objective because of them
- The orcs that play for their killstreak are losing because they can't attack an army of dwarves by themselves.
Yes, prevent the catapult from being usable after the gate is broken.
It's a lose-lose situation :
- The guys at catapult don't get kills except on VERY RARE occasions where a dwarf happens to be at the wrong place, wrong time
- The orcs that actually play the objective are losing the objective because of them
- The orcs that play for their killstreak are losing because they can't attack an army of dwarves by themselves.
Yes, prevent the catapult from being usable after the gate is broken.
eh no bs i cant argue with you cause all you do is throw insults then leave, but weby i can partially see your points that sometimes it is annoying for people to just stay at catpults,btut you must understand we play on this server to have fun, not so lil triggered objective happy people can destroy the fun we have
This isn't even proper criticism that contributes to the discussion. This is just toxic bashing. Assassiniv I see you do this type of thing on multiple threads, can you tone it down please.
Everyone, please stop lowering my IQ for a second. Let us all focus on the topic here as Tobberz said.
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eh no bs i cant argue with you cause all you do is throw insults then leave, but weby i can partially see your points that sometimes it is annoying for people to just stay at catpults,btut you must understand we play on this server to have fun, not so lil triggered objective happy people can destroy the fun we have[/quote]
Indeed, the whole point of a server is to have fun. But by being a "lil triggered catapult happy people," you will be ruining the fun for everyone else. Don't be emotional here dawg. This is a war server, where war players come, rape, pillage, and win. This is not a catapult server. If you want to have fun with the catapults, I suggest waiting when no one is at empire war or make a server and code your own. You can also copy and paste one command creations if you are too lazy to code.
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eh no bs i cant argue with you cause all you do is throw insults then leave, but weby i can partially see your points that sometimes it is annoying for people to just stay at catpults,btut you must understand we play on this server to have fun, not so lil triggered objective happy people can destroy the fun we have[/quote]
Indeed, the whole point of a server is to have fun. But by being a "lil triggered catapult happy people," you will be ruining the fun for everyone else. Don't be emotional here dawg. This is a war server, where war players come, rape, pillage, and win. This is not a catapult server. If you want to have fun with the catapults, I suggest waiting when no one is at empire war or make a server and code your own. You can also copy and paste one command creations if you are too lazy to code.
eh no bs i cant argue with you cause all you do is throw insults then leave, but weby i can partially see your points that sometimes it is annoying for people to just stay at catpults,btut you must understand we play on this server to have fun, not so lil triggered objective happy people can destroy the fun we have[/quote]
Indeed, the whole point of a server is to have fun. But by being a "lil triggered catapult happy people," you will be ruining the fun for everyone else. Don't be emotional here dawg. This is a war server, where war players come, rape, pillage, and win. This is not a catapult server. If you want to have fun with the catapults, I suggest waiting when no one is at empire war or make a server and code your own. You can also copy and paste one command creations if you are too lazy to code.[/quote]
oh no Binche Pindero, as you justed stated the point is to have fun, but then you say we cant use catapults which we have fun with. So did you mean fun for you and assinav or what? Also, i wasn't be emotional i was stating a point. And apperntly i have to say this 1000000 more times, the gameplay is getting boring. Deal with that some people want to spice it up a bit
Indeed, the whole point of a server is to have fun. But by being a "lil triggered catapult happy people," you will be ruining the fun for everyone else. Don't be emotional here dawg. This is a war server, where war players come, rape, pillage, and win. This is not a catapult server. If you want to have fun with the catapults, I suggest waiting when no one is at empire war or make a server and code your own. You can also copy and paste one command creations if you are too lazy to code.[/quote]
oh no Binche Pindero, as you justed stated the point is to have fun, but then you say we cant use catapults which we have fun with. So did you mean fun for you and assinav or what? Also, i wasn't be emotional i was stating a point. And apperntly i have to say this 1000000 more times, the gameplay is getting boring. Deal with that some people want to spice it up a bit[/quote]
I just stated a point and now you are going to insult me after you backlashed [user avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/assassiniv/74.png" name="assassiniv"]14628767[/user] for insulting? Such hypocrisy. Also, I meant fun not just for me and assassin, but for every typical player in empire war, not stubborn brats like you. They are obviously not spicing things up. They are being a burden to the orc team. Perhaps you are too childish to see the big picture of war. And technically, you are being emotional, and insulting me just proved that. So, read what I said before you turn into a "Binche Pindero" yourself. Oh wait, you can't even spell Pinche Pendejo. I guess it's already too late for you. Good job for letting an Asian correct you on your Spanish cursing. You are a real smart boy, aren't you? Everyone, please give a round of applause to Mr. "Binche Pindero."
First flame war I've seen on the forums for a while.
Claiming me to insult and leave? Please, i have made more points than you did and stopped insulting after Tobb asked us to stop.
[quote user_id="8653932" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/TheWitchGuy/74.png" name="TheWitchGuy"]This isn't even proper criticism that contributes to the discussion. This is just toxic bashing. Assassiniv I see you do this type of thing on multiple threads, can you tone it down please.[/quote]
This is not toxicity my friend, I simply ask him to either provide more points or stop making the same points that I've debunked several times. Since he didn't do that I declared myself the winner of the argument for that reason.
You are stating a poor point, you try and state that grissum is caring only for his and my joy (wow, you are such a grown up misspeling my name) while you completely ignore 3 different people who stated the point that when players stay at the catapults all the other players but them are having a bad time. And let me tell you this, for the joy of 2-3 players (if more players are trying to use the catpults no one is having fun) you secrafise the joy of all the other attacks and all of the defenders who wish to play a fair game and not a game where the goblins loose the advantage of numbers.
True, the gameplay is slightly getting boring but there are many other ways to deal with it. The staff team is investing a lot of their free time to make us new maps, gamemodes and mechanics. Which means that sooner or later we will have new mechanics. Anothing thing you might consider is taking small breaks from EW or not playing it that much.
If you do so you level of interest will not drop that fast.
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