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Alright guys. I have noticed, that people on Ew over react a lot whenever something crappy happens. They're like "I'm quitting! You guys suck! Blah blah blah!" Calm it.
 
Titan_Kronos_ said:
The thing that surprises me is how quick we are to attack Tim, and yet how protective we are of the ones that got banned. May i ask why we are so quick to believe another person yet we are quick to call Tim a liar and a thief? You have already thrown a stone at Tim, but guess what, you as well have double thrown back at you for what you have done. May i ask exactly what good this thread has done? It has done nothing but cause division in the community, and that is who the real victim is. When you believe you are leading a GRAND REVOLUTION, you are dividing up friends and the community more.

Do you really want to see Empirewar die and the community disappear our own separate ways? Do me a favor, don't even REPLY to that. Because if you are believing that Sjoerdtim is a corrupt and idiotic person, that this post is remotely true, then you have already expressed your opinion. You want the server to close, and for everyone to leave. You want to see what Sjoerdtim has done, be burned up and destroyed. Well congratulations, with every word you type you are making sure that happens. Does that make you happy?

What happens if you were on the other foot, and the community attacked you? Well I have to say, I am ashamed of the lot of you. Some of you I would call my friends, and I would always see them as good members of the community. Well congratulations, you just have lost my respect. We are so quick to frame a player that was banned as a Martyr, but we are so quick to forget what they had done that was wrong. I say this again, I am sick of the lot of you, and I mean it.

But.... I do not want to see the community burn, I do not want to see what Sjoerdtim has worked and slaved so hard for us to enjoy be destroyed. Do you not think of the hours he has put into this server? As a salute to what SJoerdtim had done, I stand by him to the end.

Now this is what Im going to do.

1. I request the community to vote to remove this thread, in respect to Sjoerdtim and because they care for the community!

2. If I see a single person here using any kind of language, congrats! You get a ban, I dont care what the reason is, starting now, any profanity on this thread gets a punishment.

So, take your best shot, hammer me, I find it ironic that the community I care about is going to throw stones at me.
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Dear my good friend titan,

don't you understand? every action is caused by a choice, whether good or bad, and since humans are people, they re-act to it. This is system that we all know as is called Cause and Effect, which occurs everywhere, naturally. I am sorry to say this Titan, but you cannot stop nature. So, as humans, people re-acted. your opinion on this re-action disappointed me, since your not the kind and loving mod i met half a year ago. I care about you, that is why I am trying to change your misunderstood conception of this. I understand that Tim is a human too, since he acted horribly jealous and in pure spite banned some of his friends, the people he was closest to on the virtual world of minecraft.

Sjoerdtim overacted, and broke a rule that is so obvious, why even bother putting it up? Since the rules where made only on the area the server/sjoerdtim owns, it only makes sense only bad behavior on there could be punished. Therefor, just because of some skype call, sjoerdtim can't ban players UNLESS they acted bad on the server/tim's network.

Sjoerdtim might have worked so hard, though that wasn't the sjoerdtim here. I miss the old, kind, loving, and caring sjoerdtim that would help, not harm. That sjoerdtim, the sjoerdtim that I remember, that I miss, is not the one here. The sjoerdtim I see is a sjoerdtim overthrown by the defects of jealously, spite, and unreasoning. I know that he might be depressed, mainly because of "his loss," though it wasn't t Antzorgs and KingJosephs fault for being friends.

No, I don't want E. W. to be split into two, but what Tim did was completely spiteful and cruel, and was an act of jealously. I feel for the poor players who misunderstand their innocence, like you, and also those who have not been taught the Fifth Grade curriculum, which goes into detail about Cause and Effect.

Basically, Tim acted spitefully due to jealously, which was caused off a non-empire-war owned area.

I miss the old sjoerditm. I want the old sjoerdtim back. #GiveSjoerdtimBack!

- from python
 
To those requesting this to be locked, the reason it was not was for you to keep on discussing. We learned from the Anrza flame war, that this did not help to lock, it made matters worse.

The staff has also demanded that Sjoerdtim is not allowed to speak on this matter. for this would do nothing to promote people to flame more. We learn from the past, and we move on. I to be honest, know very little because I care not to know. I know one thing though, again, both parties are at fault. But I stand with Sjoerdtim to the end.

Python, dont give us the old pitiful story and because we are not accepting what you want us to think. Does not make us kids that have to be sat down and lectured.

Titan is out now, good luck with your discussion that really benefits nothing. See you all on the server, ta-ta!
 
We do not want to see another flame war... but if one indeed comes I'm afraid once again I will dain to have no part in it!

-you'res truely and forever Standing Neutral JonaHercules
 
Titan_Kronos_ said:
To those requesting this to be locked, the reason it was not was for you to keep on discussing. We learned from the Anrza flame war, that this did not help to lock, it made matters worse.

The staff has also demanded that Sjoerdtim is not allowed to speak on this matter. for this would do nothing but to promote people to flame more. We learn from the past, and we move on. I to be honest, know very little because I care not to know. I know one thing though, again, both parties are at fault. But I stand with Sjoerdtim to the end.

Python, dont give us the old pitiful story and because we are not accepting what you want us to think. Does not make us kids that have to be sat down and lectured.

Titan is out now, good luck with your discussion that really benefits nothing. See you all on the server, ta-ta!
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Titan, you treat us like kids, saying "if you don't do this (homework) you'll get this (detention/ban) or if you do this (bad behavior) you will get this (ban/punishment) Now stop being a hypocrite, please, or at least when attempting to prove an invalid point. Not to mention that only a few players haven't accepted the truth, and the ones who don't accept that they where banned unfairly are no smarter then a first grader when it comes to a basic understanding of the differences of unfair and fair.
 
Python... are you trying to start a war? this will not end in you're favour... and I would indeed be sad to see you banned
 
Sam Adams' middle name was P. for Python. ;-)

I think that, while Tim overreacted grossly, it's most likely the other two were hounding him somehow. The Christmas incident, probably.
 
For the absolute love of god and everything holy Python. Stop. Please.
Nobody wants to hear your continually sob story and pleas for KingJoe and Antzorg to be unbanned. Nobody.
Nobody wants to hear your one sided arguments and close minded opinion.
Nobody wants hear you spout off and lecture us about a illogical opinion.

Stop acting like KingJoe and Antzorg did nothing wrong. I can tell you for a fact the KingJoe twisted and turned his story into a way that painted him as the victim of a cruel admin.
 
Ofc he did, he is Joe. I was always cautious about his. xD

Although Ant's more honest, and his is quite, well, untwistable.
 
I could forgive everything Tim did here, banning, racist comments or what ever the hell he actually did if he would just tell the truth of why he banned these two. Instead we are left with a giant copout: "Just Trust Me"
and we are forced to believe this story because we have no other information

Joes story seems like it has a lot of holes in it though. He called out Dutch Christmas being racist and his offence comments so he just left and blocked him from everything?

As for Antzorgs story about the girl thats not stuff you can make up
 
InfamousGerman said:
For the absolute love of god and everything holy Python. Stop. Please.
Nobody wants to hear your continually sob story and pleas for KingJoe and Antzorg to be unbanned. Nobody.
Nobody wants to hear your one sided arguments and close minded opinion.
Nobody wants hear you spout off and lecture us about a illogical opinion.

Stop acting like KingJoe and Antzorg did nothing wrong. I can tell you for a fact the KingJoe twisted and turned his story into a way that painted him as the victim of a cruel admin.
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no one wants to hear you lie about be hearing stuff that people dont hear like you
 
Just validating the stuff on the first page

I'm, like Arda, in the Skype call where this stuff is going on and was skyping Joe when he got banned. From what Joe told me he was trying to get Tim back on the call from which he left after the stuff that is on the first page of this thread happened.

I can see why Tim would want to ban Joe at the time but banning someone to get rid of them is not the way to go if you want to settle something. Also Morgan didn't do anything to provoke this ban to my knowledge. When Joe wanted to add him back to the call he really did mean it nicely. He felt that it had died after Tim left and wanted him back because he was "Great Banter".

Getting to the point: Ban not really justified, especially for Morgan. But hey Tim's owner and is allowed to do as he likes, all he needs to fear is the increased revolt risk :p

KordianThegreat said:
I can imagine this being a scheme cooked up by raidstone and Kingjoe to just wreck this server in a flame war.
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I laughed at this a lot because of the absurdity of it

[quote user_id="6474774" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/ArdArdA/74.png" name="ArdArdA"] Now you see Tim fears conflict like a Wacko fears poetry analysis[/quote] Damn Poetry
 
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