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has morgoth ever needed to corrupt a dwarf. their greed often works in his favor. the time they murdered and elven king over a jewel that was rightfully his comes readily to mind.
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They do not reflect the majority of dwarves.Have you ever met a dwarf
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many. the Naugrim are few and far between now but many years ago they used to be quite plentiful.
We are talking about the state of the races in the third age.Have you met Gimli the great.
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Gimli the great, happened to be an exception among dwarves. he was the ONLY dwarf to EVER go to the undieing lands. EVERY elf went to the undieing lands. Gimli was only accepted due to befriending Legolas and for his desire to see the Lady Galadrial.
Every elf did not go to the undying lands u ever heard of an orc.
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orcs are not elves. they are a perversion of elves made in mockery of them. as trolls are made in mockery of ents.
Orcs are not elves - the first ones were created by twisting elves, but subsequent generations are not elves, despite their ancestors having been so. After the first incarnation, they became creatures of their own, bearing little resemblance to what they were. It is like calling two species of animal the same because they shared an evolutionary ancestor.
Not all elves went to the undying land just like the orcs sauron speaks of.
The original orcs, the only ones you could make an argument for, are long since past. The subsequent generations hold no claim to the elven race. So yes, all the elves that were able went to the Grey Havens.
Were able not all like lucolas said.
The elves that died didn't go there.
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of the first elves maybe a dozen where tortured and twisted by morgoth. what resulted from this was no longer an elf but a foul race with hatred for the light. even should these few "corrupted elves" be allowed to go to valinor they would have refused, choosing instead the dark of the void outside the wall of night.
the elves that died where brought to valinor to the halls of mandos to await a time when they could again walk among their kin
the elves that died where brought to valinor to the halls of mandos to await a time when they could again walk among their kin
I think Yianni has created a monster....
I know it is a flame war.
michaelrotov1234
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Dwarves are better.No dummy elves are better.Are you on crack dwarves are better.Have you been smoking dead children elves are better.No you dumb a** dwarves are better.Whoa dude uncalled for elves are better.You know what f**k you dwarves are better.D**k face elves are better.Go F**k urself dwarves are better.Right back at you dummy elves are better.F**k you F**k you #DwarvesForLife #F**kElves.#DwarvesAreDumb #ElfForLife.Dumb A** elf.This has become an uncivilzed disscusion we elves withdraw from the poll.Yes we dwarves win yes yes yes #F**kElves.That is basically this thread.
But look at the face of the elven leader.
Like for a moustache
Really Tim? Did you photoshop it again..
Luckily I found the original picture...
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