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thubionerd stfu, the map is good , the flags are like that on purpose
respect others's work dude dont just say it sucks
gundabad isnt for nbs , it easily dies if attacked in groups , as team said : u got teamwork.
 
The map is nice, the PvP sucks. And the Gundabads attack in teams, too, knocking you back before you can hit them.
 
Pythonawe said:
Tim, that is not true. Even with my donator helmet, 60% of the time I get 2 hit killed. Gundabads weapon does 6.25 damage with voting, and with strength 15 damage. They are very strong, but slightly worse armor then the regular orcs. (only by 0.5 armor points.) I think that they were fine with resistance and their armor, it just that the swordsman's weapon only does 8 damage with voting, about twice as less. The swordsman armor is slightly better then the gundabads and worse then the regular dwarf melee. The fact that I paid 3k for a class that's armor is weaker then the normal melee and weapon only does 1 more damage bugs me.

Change: Make swordsman stronger, the dwarf melee class too, and give gundabads their resistance back
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Change: Make swordsman stronger
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We tested, the Gundabad Orc without voting boots deals 2 HEARTS to an axeman, HOW IS THAT OP?
 
Tim, gundabads get Sharpness 5 with voting, right? Each sharpness level added does 1.25 more damage on the weapon, so with sharpness 5 the melee weapon (in the case the bone) does 6.25 damage. According to the forums and the other websites, strength 1 adds %130 damage on all melee attacks. (includes even your fists, not just particular items (swords and stuff) So, 6.25 with the 130% added damage means about 15 damage per hit. And 35% of the map is at an angle (stairs and they could jump to get them) so critical hits also could happen, which doubles the amount of damage to 30 dmg. With crits, a gundabad can 2 hit kill an archer, without crits 3 hits. With crits, they can 3 hit axeman and without it 3-4 hit without crits.

Their "counter" weapon does only 8 damage when voting. Even though gundabad does have less armor, it is only by 1 armor point. (Gundabads have 6, swordsman 7.) Gundabads and trolls can go through the map unchallenged. All I ask is a buff to the swordsman.

http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Status_effect Link stating that "melee attacks" do 130% more damage per level of strength.
 
Pythonawe said:
Tim, gundabads get Sharpness 5 with voting, right? Each sharpness level added does 1.25 more damage on the weapon, so with sharpness 5 the melee weapon (in the case the bone) does 6.25 damage. According to the forums and the other websites, strength 1 adds %130 damage on all melee attacks. (includes even your fists, not just particular items (swords and stuff) So, 6.25 with the 130% added damage means about 15 damage per hit. And 35% of the map is at an angle (stairs and they could jump to get them) so critical hits also could happen, which doubles the amount of damage to 30 dmg. With crits, a gundabad can 2 hit kill an archer, without crits 3 hits. With crits, they can 3 hit axeman and without it 3-4 hit without crits.

Their "counter" weapon does only 8 damage when voting. Even though gundabad does have less armor, it is only by 1 armor point. (Gundabads have 6, swordsman 7.) Gundabads and trolls can go through the map unchallenged. All I ask is a buff to the swordsman.

http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Status_effect Link stating that "melee attacks" do 130% more damage per level of strength.
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Nah, you're wrong.
The servers changes a lot of mechanics, including those.
Gundabad hit Axemen 2 hearts without voting, Axemen hit gundabad 2 hearts with voting.
Gundabad are 0.5 heart stronger.

I don't care about the calculations, we've tested and it's true.
 
Now you're telling me that you modified it so that strength doesn't affect weapons that have sharpness? That reply was very vague, I need a more descriptive answer please to support your strong opinion against buffing the swordsman.
 
Pythonawe said:
Now you're telling me that you modified it so that strength doesn't affect weapons that have sharpness? That reply was very vague, I need a more descriptive answer please to support your strong opinion against buffing the swordsman.
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I'm not telling you specific modifications, the server has a lot of custom mechanics and I'm not explaining them all, I'm just telling you that the health (2 hearts) is it, and you can believe me, because I made it, so no more need for discussion.
 
Tim, even as a donor with a diamond helmet (+0.5 more armor) voting, (0.5+ more armor) and my enchantments on my helmet (+1 armor point) and as the axeman, I still get 4 hit WITHOUT crits. Maybe a bug?
 
Pythonawe said:
Tim, even as a donor with a diamond helmet (+0.5 more armor) voting, (0.5+ more armor) and my enchantments on my helmet (+1 armor point) and as the axeman, I still get 4 hit WITHOUT crits. Maybe a bug?
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I was talking about non-critical hits, crits may have done 3 hearts, and with voters maybe even 3.5, but still. It's not OP.
And seriously, 4-hit isn't OP at all.. Even if it wasn't crit he could had done 2.5-3 hearts with the voter boost, and 4x that is a kill. (+ He may have done fall damage)
 
4 hits? Gundabads die from 4 hits as well, I usually try to move around a lot, so most of the hits would miss, because otherwise, I'd die.
 
Tim, I usally get 4 hit killed as a donor, without crits. I have 2 extra armor points, they don't. Even as an archer I get 2 hit killed.
 
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