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Geological time periods - all named after European tribes, places and some crazy Russian stuff.
Devonian - named after the English country of Devon. Silurian, named after an ancient Celtic tribe of North Wales.

America.....erm.....nope. Don't thing anything geological is named after an american tribe,place or crazy russian stuff. :P
 
And is that the only measure of country worth?

By your logic: We have an element, Americium, named after us. We win.

Plus, we totally bailed you guys out of two sticky world war situations. OK, so the second one was really Russia's doing more than ours, but they associate more with themselves than they do with Europe, so they don't really count. (The Ukraine situation?)
 
Yeah, look at Europe. A lot of people crazy in debt, bankrupt even. Countries at war, or might as well be, no union between many countries.
No unified language, if I go a little ways from somewhere in Europe I can't understand anyone
Here in 'Merica we like our things unified, and not bankrupt (except detroit. No one likes detroit.)
 
No union between nations.No unified language, if I go a little ways from somewhere in Europe I can't understand anyone

Instead of typing on here go learn more languages then. :p

Europe is different from one another because thats how our nations evolved. Most of europe has about 700 more years of its existence than america, which was pretty much united at its colonisation, so its to be expected we are different.

Also we have something called the European union btw :p
 
Without Europe, America would not exist as it does today.
Question: what was the last war America won, by its' self? (civil war doesn't count)
(not a rhetorical question, i really don't know and want an answer)
 
Without Europe, America would not exist as it does today.
Question: what was the last war America won, by its' self? (civil war doesn't count)
(not a rhetorical question, i really don't know and want an answer)
I'm pretty sure the network of alliances between countries means that no war is won alone.
 
You tell the old welsh princes that...
And the Falklands, but neither state actually declared war... hmm i might have read up about international wars
 
If you look at history, America has never actually lost a war. :thumb: (We pulled out of Vietnam, we were not defeated, and it was never technically a war. The War of 1812 was just kind of messed up and confusing, but we did send the Brits packing a second time, so I consider it a victory as well.)

Just think of all those wars the various nations of Europe has lost. Oh my...
 
Whooa, Vietnam was NOT a war? ....

Pulled out, tactical retreat all the same really, the main goal was not met - therefore lost.
 
[quote user_id="2931363" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/Mr_CookieSmurf/74.png" name="Mr_CookieSmurf"][quote user_id="9037593" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/cool_col/74.png" name="cool_col"]We could destroy in war. Case closed (USA)

All armies of Europe against the army of America? Think not.[/quote]
If russia didnt help, we would prob win.[/quote]
Nope, russia is only good for nukes ;)
 
[quote user_id="3800268" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/Electric_Ice777/74.png" name="Electric_Ice777"][quote user_id="2931363" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/Mr_CookieSmurf/74.png" name="Mr_CookieSmurf"][quote user_id="9037593" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/cool_col/74.png" name="cool_col"]We could destroy in war. Case closed (USA)

All armies of Europe against the army of America? Think not.[/quote]
If russia didnt help, we would prob win.[/quote]
Nope, russia is only good for nukes ;)[/quote]

And for supplying vodka.

[quote user_id="1406704" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/DruMaster24/74.png" name="DruMaster24"]If you look at history, America has never actually lost a war. :thumb: (We pulled out of Vietnam, we were not defeated, and it was never technically a war. The War of 1812 was just kind of messed up and confusing, but we did send the Brits packing a second time, so I consider it a victory as well.)

Just think of all those wars the various nations of Europe has lost. Oh my...[/quote]

I look different at that. The reason of helping Vietnam was all about stopping the spread of communism (Check ''Truman docterine''). Looking at the fact that they were not able to stop the spread of communism there, I would say that they've lost that ''war''.

Also, one last thing, North Korea attacked South Korea (Communism vs Capitalism) and because of the Truman docterine, they jumped in again. If you researched a bit in it, you'll know that the UN army (Mostly made out of American soldiers, with an American person leading as well), got kicked ass by China's Army upon reach China's border. They got pushed back all the way back to South-Korea, then ever further, till it stopped. I would say America ''lost'' that one as well ;)
 
If you look at history, America has never actually lost a war. :thumb: (We pulled out of Vietnam, we were not defeated, and it was never technically a war. The War of 1812 was just kind of messed up and confusing, but we did send the Brits packing a second time, so I consider it a victory as well.)

Just think of all those wars the various nations of Europe has lost. Oh my...

Well, that's your opinion and I can understand why you may think so. However, if you don't want to consider it a lose (concerning 1812), it was a colossal failure by the Americans. Not only did you attack Canada, or what was to become Canada, but you attacked during a time when the British were already engaged. That's a fact many Americans seem to forget. The Americans in charge of military affairs were at least smart enough to realize that they could only win by taking the offensive against a tiny, tiny fraction of the British Army and Navy.

So, okay. You'd imagine the high and mighty Americans would sweep across the frontier and take the territories of Britain. Well... not really. Not only did you uselessly lose men, but you lost a war which was honestly against British officers who were there for probably failing somewhere else, and you also lost to a bunch of militia men who were under equipped in every way. Additionally, you also lost to the Natives, who were just as important in the defense of Canada at the time. Ultimately, The Americans gained no land, and were seriously demoralized by the outcome of the war. You'd actually lost an engagement (the U.S. started, by the way) against a bunch of hunters, loyalists, aboriginals, and lonely British officers.

And the kicker. When the actual British Army showed up, they plowed through your defense and walked right up to the White House and burnt it down. So, you may not call it a lose, and I won't try and change your mind since it's an opinion and I have my own. Yet, because of the circumstances of the war, it was a major failure on the part of your military; a lose.
 
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