[quote user_id="1406704" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/DruMaster24/74.png" name="DruMaster24"]If you look at history, America has never actually lost a war. :thumb: (We pulled out of Vietnam, we were not defeated, and it was never technically a war. The War of 1812 was just kind of messed up and confusing, but we did send the Brits packing a second time, so I consider it a victory as well.)
Just think of all those wars the various nations of Europe has lost. Oh my...
Well, that's your opinion and I can understand why you may think so. However, if you don't want to consider it a lose (concerning 1812), it was a colossal failure by the Americans. Not only did you attack Canada, or what was to become Canada, but you attacked during a time when the British were already engaged. That's a fact many Americans seem to forget. The Americans in charge of military affairs were at least smart enough to realize that they could only win by taking the offensive against a tiny, tiny fraction of the British Army and Navy.
So, okay. You'd imagine the high and mighty Americans would sweep across the frontier and take the territories of Britain. Well... not really. Not only did you uselessly lose men, but you lost a war which was honestly against British officers who were there for probably failing somewhere else, and you also lost to a bunch of militia men who were under equipped in every way. Additionally, you also lost to the Natives, who were just as important in the defense of Canada at the time. Ultimately, The Americans gained no land, and were seriously demoralized by the outcome of the war. You'd actually lost an engagement (the U.S. started, by the way) against a bunch of hunters, loyalists, aboriginals, and lonely British officers.
And the kicker. When the actual British Army showed up, they plowed through your defense and walked right up to the White House and burnt it down. So, you may not call it a lose, and I won't try and change your mind since it's an opinion and I have my own. Yet, because of the circumstances of the war, it was a major failure on the part of your military; a lose.[/quote]
everyone was taught to believe that their country was good.