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Olog hai

[quote user_id="8402473" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/stormray73/74.png" name="stormray73"]The way I see it is this:

We needed a class to counter royal guard and to an extent, elven archer. It was easier for tibbles to copy and paste code from troll and rename it Olog Hai that it was to code an entirely new class.
royal guard is the least op melee point class there is. any decent archer can kill it with ease.
normal soldiers have more armor than it. it trades about 1 armor point for 1 attack point.
trolls don't counter elven archer.... elven archers can grind threw trolls so fast. you simply arrow spam 5 times into the troll and its dead. instead of 3 times for a soldier.[/quote]
Lies. Great Goblin has Archer armor and 6.50 damage.
 
The pvp system is based of the lore, you know. That does make since, but no to this extent. It would be like adding dragon ball z point class to gondor with strength 1000 and reistance 1000 and making them win all games, but in a slightly lesser version. This is not just lore, pvp, or balance, sine common sense out does all of them. With common sense, and a basic knowledge of the customary metric system, one understands that a object 14 foot tall or larger could not simply fit through a 10 foot entrance. Just common sense.
 
The pvp system is based of the lore, you know. That does make since, but no to this extent. It would be like adding dragon ball z point class to gondor with strength 1000 and reistance 1000 and making them win all games, but in a slightly lesser version. This is not just lore, pvp, or balance, sine common sense out does all of them. With common sense, and a basic knowledge of the customary metric system, one understands that a object 14 foot tall or larger could not simply fit through a 10 foot entrance. Just common sense.

Again, heard of bending the object? (For a troll, that would be crouching :I)
 
[quote user_id="4867771" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/Pythonawe/74.png" name="Pythonawe"]The pvp system is based of the lore, you know. That does make since, but no to this extent. It would be like adding dragon ball z point class to gondor with strength 1000 and reistance 1000 and making them win all games, but in a slightly lesser version. This is not just lore, pvp, or balance, sine common sense out does all of them. With common sense, and a basic knowledge of the customary metric system, one understands that a object 14 foot tall or larger could not simply fit through a 10 foot entrance. Just common sense.

Again, heard of bending the object? (For a troll, that would be crouching :I)[/quote]
Trolls where to big to crouch through, and if they did that would be a VERY VERY VERY bad position, defenseless and open fire could rain upon them. It would take a long time for a huge fat creature as a troll to fit through, with full armor and weapons, if possible. I doubt they even could, and if they could they would die due to vulnreablity to the enemy's attacks and arrows.
 
It's not a bad idea to remove Olog hai, it just has to be replaced with a class that is just as strong.
 
No point in replacing them... They'd replace it with something arrow resistant, which ruins Rohan defense..
 
We need a counter for elven archers, e.g. Andycrammer. They wreck the team and get 30+ killstreaks. It is no fun to play against, and as I stated before we need a counter. ARROW DEFLECTION. Problem solved. Or we buff the troll.
 
No point in replacing them... They'd replace it with something arrow resistant, which ruins Rohan defense..
how would it ruin rohan defense? Having an orc class with a shield that can bash wont do anything... your out of your mind! You know soldier and Royal guards exist, right? An archer comes with a sword bro :P
 
[quote user_id="7396155" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/arakrsptec/74.png" name="arakrsptec"]No point in replacing them... They'd replace it with something arrow resistant, which ruins Rohan defense..
how would it ruin rohan defense? Having an orc class with a shield that can bash wont do anything... your out of your mind! You know soldier and Royal guards exist, right? An archer comes with a sword bro :P[/quote]
Rohan's defense isn't just composed of archers. There are mages, spearmen, swordsmen, constructers, and archers also have swords. Even though it's not very practical for an archer to use a sword, they could always fake a charge then shoot them, as the new class would be slow.
 
[quote user_id="4867771" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/Pythonawe/74.png" name="Pythonawe"][quote user_id="7396155" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/arakrsptec/74.png" name="arakrsptec"]No point in replacing them... They'd replace it with something arrow resistant, which ruins Rohan defense..
how would it ruin rohan defense? Having an orc class with a shield that can bash wont do anything... your out of your mind! You know soldier and Royal guards exist, right? An archer comes with a sword bro :P[/quote]
Rohan's defense isn't just composed of archers. There are mages, spearmen, swordsmen, constructers, and archers also have swords. Even though it's not very practical for an archer to use a sword, they could always fake a charge then shoot them, as the new class would be slow.[/quote]
as slow as a troll
 
[quote user_id="10733867" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/Ajroets/74.png" name="Ajroets"]
[quote user_id="7396155" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/arakrsptec/74.png" name="arakrsptec"]No point in replacing them... They'd replace it with something arrow resistant, which ruins Rohan defense..
how would it ruin rohan defense? Having an orc class with a shield that can bash wont do anything... your out of your mind! You know soldier and Royal guards exist, right? An archer comes with a sword bro :P
Rohan's defense isn't just composed of archers. There are mages, spearmen, swordsmen, constructers, and archers also have swords. Even though it's not very practical for an archer to use a sword, they could always fake a charge then shoot them, as the new class would be slow.[/quote]
as slow as a troll[/quote]
Um... Yeah, I know. But basically everyone on Rohan chooses archer regardless.
 
[quote user_id="10733867" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/Ajroets/74.png" name="Ajroets"]
[quote user_id="7396155" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/arakrsptec/74.png" name="arakrsptec"]No point in replacing them... They'd replace it with something arrow resistant, which ruins Rohan defense..
how would it ruin rohan defense? Having an orc class with a shield that can bash wont do anything... your out of your mind! You know soldier and Royal guards exist, right? An archer comes with a sword bro :P
Rohan's defense isn't just composed of archers. There are mages, spearmen, swordsmen, constructers, and archers also have swords. Even though it's not very practical for an archer to use a sword, they could always fake a charge then shoot them, as the new class would be slow.[/quote]
as slow as a troll[/quote]
What slow does a troll currently have? With the shield of course it would be as slow as a guardian.
 
[quote user_id="4867771" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/Pythonawe/74.png" name="Pythonawe"]
[quote user_id="4867771" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/Pythonawe/74.png" name="Pythonawe"][quote user_id="7396155" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/arakrsptec/74.png" name="arakrsptec"]No point in replacing them... They'd replace it with something arrow resistant, which ruins Rohan defense..
how would it ruin rohan defense? Having an orc class with a shield that can bash wont do anything... your out of your mind! You know soldier and Royal guards exist, right? An archer comes with a sword bro :P
Rohan's defense isn't just composed of archers. There are mages, spearmen, swordsmen, constructers, and archers also have swords. Even though it's not very practical for an archer to use a sword, they could always fake a charge then shoot them, as the new class would be slow.[/quote]
as slow as a troll[/quote]
What slow does a troll currently have? With the shield of course it would be as slow as a guardian.[/quote]

Don't know. Doesn't matter. Troll has a speed glitch, which makes him even faster than normal classes.
 
The reason I wanted to change this. With 15 mordor, 5 fucking trolls captured the first flag. No one could match their op and unrealisticness. The uruks won because of these unrealistic, not lore supported, and common sense. Either tim has had brain farts since day 1 about trolls or he doesnt give on. I hope someone gets my point that rohan loses due to someone's lack of knowledge of measurement and common sense. (or business :P) http://imgur.com/a/bG3S0
 
[quote user_id="4867771" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/Pythonawe/74.png" name="Pythonawe"][quote user_id="10733867" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/Ajroets/74.png" name="Ajroets"][quote user_id="4867771" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/Pythonawe/74.png" name="Pythonawe"]
No point in replacing them... They'd replace it with something arrow resistant, which ruins Rohan defense..
how would it ruin rohan defense? Having an orc class with a shield that can bash wont do anything... your out of your mind! You know soldier and Royal guards exist, right? An archer comes with a sword bro :P
Rohan's defense isn't just composed of archers. There are mages, spearmen, swordsmen, constructers, and archers also have swords. Even though it's not very practical for an archer to use a sword, they could always fake a charge then shoot them, as the new class would be slow.[/quote]
as slow as a troll[/quote]
Um... Yeah, I know. But basically everyone on Rohan chooses archer regardless.[/quote]
And maybe with this new class, less will pick archers, but it doesn't matter. They aren't forced to pick archer, they make that choice on their own. They can also choose to be a soldier when this class comes out to fight it.
 
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