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A genuine concern about Staff

Well the reason is the staff probably already has in mind a group of people they would chose for staff. Also by having the staff chose the initial people it lessens the amount of time it takes to consider an application. The reason being is everyone who has is on forums would try and become pre-mod which spams the staff's already busy schedule. Basically it eliminates the dumb applications of people who aren't qualified or who have a history of breaking the rules etc. You are right that the result would be the same, but it is the amount of time to reach the result which is different.
You can usually see from the application who is the correct material to employ as the staff. The quantity level might be higher, the quality level might be lower, but you'd give all the people an equal chance. If those who they'd think of being "worthy" to get privately invited by staff to join in become one of them would join in, the better for them. They get their guy and add him right away to sort the applications.

EDIT: Perhaps only one person should be tasked by reviewing applications. If that would be the case, then I agree with you for it would be relatively long and tiresome to review all of the applications.
 
If we get new staff what is to stop them from going inactive?
Nothing. Every person that plays here ultimately ages until he/she grows out of EW. The question is, will the cycle be continuous? Will players who go inactive be demoted, to make way for younger, more active ones?
 
How about we get some staff for the Oceania and South East Asia regions, whenever I am on 99.9% of the time no staff is to be seen.
 
Just letting you know that we are looking into this, but that a more important concern is getting rid of or motivating the current staff to actually be active before we introduce new members to the team.
 
Just letting you know that we are looking into this, but that a more important concern is getting rid of or motivating the current staff to actually be active before we introduce new members to the team.

Things that should change your view on this...

Only_God - Gone inactive to focus on other things

Slimegirl24 - Comes on when can but spends a lot of time studying

arakrhoweveryouspellit - Not in EU time zone so can't be on at that timezone

Mr_CookieSmurf - Busy? Not sure.

farmeraap - Didn't he stop playing like a year ago?

Ljuboss - To be honest, I don't even know who this guy is.
 
Just letting you know that we are looking into this, but that a more important concern is getting rid of or motivating the current staff to actually be active before we introduce new members to the team.

Current staff always should come on more. But that's not how you fix it the problem on having too few staff members online. You fix it by adding more staff (and we are seriously talking about 3-5 new pre-mods), so that the new and the old staff can distribute the hours on which they play on the server, so that there would always be atleast 1 moderator online. When that is possible, you know you've a good and active staff team.
 
cool that you are talking about adding new staff. guess I am so used to constant bugs and glitches and hackers I hardly notice anymore XD. didn't know it was a big problem. you will play for a while longer and get used to the flow of things.
 
[quote user_id="960266" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/sjoerdtim/74.png" name="sjoerdtim"]Just letting you know that we are looking into this, but that a more important concern is getting rid of or motivating the current staff to actually be active before we introduce new members to the team.
Things that should change your view on this...
Only_God - Gone inactive to focus on other things
Slimegirl24 - Comes on when can but spends a lot of time studying
arakrhoweveryouspellit - Not in EU time zone so can't be on at that timezone
Mr_CookieSmurf - Busy? Not sure.
farmeraap - Didn't he stop playing like a year ago?
Ljuboss - To be honest, I don't even know who this guy is.[/quote]

Who do you even think you are judging about my staff's inactivity? You're not "changing my view". I know more about these people and their reasons for when they are on, if they are at all and like I said this is something we are working on. So let us do our job and stop thinking you know what's best for the server and it's staff members.
 
[quote user_id="4803008" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/adamrob2002/74.png" name="adamrob2002"]
Just letting you know that we are looking into this, but that a more important concern is getting rid of or motivating the current staff to actually be active before we introduce new members to the team.
Things that should change your view on this...
Only_God - Gone inactive to focus on other things
Slimegirl24 - Comes on when can but spends a lot of time studying
arakrhoweveryouspellit - Not in EU time zone so can't be on at that timezone
Mr_CookieSmurf - Busy? Not sure.
farmeraap - Didn't he stop playing like a year ago?
Ljuboss - To be honest, I don't even know who this guy is.

Who do you even think you are judging about my staff's inactivity? You're not "changing my view". I know more about these people and their reasons for when they are on, if they are at all and like I said this is something we are working on. So let us do our job and stop thinking you know what's best for the server and it's staff members.[/quote]
Only we know why we are active or inactive, no one else. You can't just say that to us, we have our personal reasons for it. Yes, new pre-mods is something we're looking in to, but it doesn't happen with a click of your fingers at all. These threads are pretty much pointless. Starts of with the same thing and ends up as an argument or a way for players to be rude or insult the current staff.
 
[quote user_id="960266" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/sjoerdtim/74.png" name="sjoerdtim"][quote user_id="4803008" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/adamrob2002/74.png" name="adamrob2002"][quote user_id="960266" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/sjoerdtim/74.png" name="sjoerdtim"]Just letting you know that we are looking into this, but that a more important concern is getting rid of or motivating the current staff to actually be active before we introduce new members to the team.
Things that should change your view on this...
Only_God - Gone inactive to focus on other things
Slimegirl24 - Comes on when can but spends a lot of time studying
arakrhoweveryouspellit - Not in EU time zone so can't be on at that timezone
Mr_CookieSmurf - Busy? Not sure.
farmeraap - Didn't he stop playing like a year ago?
Ljuboss - To be honest, I don't even know who this guy is.[/quote]

Who do you even think you are judging about my staff's inactivity? You're not "changing my view". I know more about these people and their reasons for when they are on, if they are at all and like I said this is something we are working on. So let us do our job and stop thinking you know what's best for the server and it's staff members.[/quote]
Only we know why we are active or inactive, no one else. You can't just say that to us, we have our personal reasons for it. Yes, new pre-mods is something we're looking in to, but it doesn't happen with a click of your fingers at all. These threads are pretty much pointless. Starts of with the same thing and ends up as an argument or a way for players to be rude or insult the current staff.[/quote]
Slime, You can not just call this thread pointless, new pre-mods are a great idea! But as a player on EW we are "reminding" you guys that we think this will be good. So don't call this thread "Pretty much pointless" It was a great idea and I am happy someone spoke up about it.
 
Well as the person who started this thread I think finally having input from a good range of people makes it needed for me to do a follow up to the original post.

First off to the staff: Awesome, I'm glad to hear you realize the lack of activity by the current staff members. Also the fact that some of you want to consider adding a few pre-mods is even better. It makes me glad to see leadership that is willing to change and grow. Also personally I hope the current staff do become more active. All of them are awesome people and wouldn't have become staff if it were otherwise.

Also in response to Tim and Slime about this "pointless thread" and how only you know "what is best for the server", the fact that this topic has appeared in multiple threads over the past month or so, started by several different people, and has gained lots of attention from the community means one thing. We want a change and we need a change. When a large portion of posts on the forums is about hackers, bug abusers, spammers, etc. it shows that the server is struggling a bit in regards to enforcement.

We as players are the ones who get to enjoy the fruits of your labors. However, due to those who hack, spam, abuse bugs, etc. they ruin your hard work and make the server unappealing and rather annoying sometimes to play on. This lack of enforcement also shows to newer players that our staff is not as active as other servers to which they are more accustomed to.

Also in regards to why or why not the Staff are inactive, like Slime said, only the staff really truly know why they can't be on. We all get busy and sometimes you can't get online. However, since the staff is put in a position of leadership and greater responsibility, they should notify the community if the next week, month, or several months they will be farely inactive or questionable in their ability to be online. I say this not as criticism of you as people, but rather as someone who likes to know what is going on. If the community knows that a certain staff member isn't going to be very active, we will be less likely to rant about how they are never on. This doesn't mean you guys have to tell your life story, but just give us a little heads up every now and then.

So since this thread's lifespan is probably only a few days before some tries flaming at someone else let me say this.

TO THE COMMUNITY: Get off the staff's back. Enough complaining, enough whining, enough groaning and moaning, bellyaching, and being complete turds. Seriously guys, like the Staff is amazing and we all know it, but we often jump to quickly to grab our pitchfork and torch and start a riot aimed at the staff. I know the past few months have been rough in terms of rule enforcement, but this is a difficult time of year for people to be active with school starting, and life schedules changing. After this thread dies, try and keep the topic of new Staff on the down low. Just record and report like always.

TO THE STAFF: Don't become angry at the community. We love you guys, but it's a tough love. We have our ups and downs, differences of opinions, and in general we'll argue. In the end however, we really do appreciate a lot of the work you guys do. We may not notice it, but looking back I know personally you have done a lot to make my experience on the server amazing. I hope you guys can keep being active on the server and that maybe you could add a few to your ranks, but like you guys said, you know what's best for the server, well at least most of the time ;) .

So if you made it to this point in this post you get a cookie. Thanks for reading this and hope the server and community keeps getting better.
 
[quote user_id="12823354" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/RyanVia/74.png" name="RyanVia"]The real question is do we have players that will make capable mods and be active
That question can be answered once the applications will become a thing.[/quote]
THAT QUESTION WILL BE ANSWERED THIS SUNDAY NIGHT AT SMACKDOWN!!!!!!!!!!!![youtube]wRRsXxE1KVY[/youtube]
On a serious note, i do agree that additional staff would seem to be a good option. Im not saying that our current staff lacks anything (they are all great people trust me) but having limited staff members is always a bad thing. even with good staff which we have, its hard to properly moderate a big network with tons of people on with somewhat limited staff.

i dont think its fair to judge the staff members, each person has a different opinion. for example I like all the staff (arak, lock, and only the most) but with other people their opinions may differ

The only issue I see in this is recruiting good staff members. a smart decision would be to make applications (expecting h8 m8s) or try something out similar. ofc it would have requirements like any good appeal, playtime, experience, maturity, etc.

but whining about how we lack staff won't really help i think. trying to implement some of the suggestions in threads like this may help Its only a thought but some ideas go a long way!!!

[quote user_id="10356423" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/Mile_Hi_Masher/74.png" name="Mile_Hi_Masher"]Lock request after Mass summed everything up![/quote]
Nope, that doesnt make sense... just because someone sums everything up doesnt mean it should be locked. That doesnt solve the issue we have currently.

I dont see why someone should lock a post if it hasn't done what it wanted to Mile_Hi_Masher (10356423) This is a good thread in my opinion and trying to lock it doesnt make sense
 
Let me just make this clear for you guys xD
1- We are considering new staff as you make these threads, damn, we're already choosing names of candidates for it....and I've said this before on another thread about new staff so you don't need to keep making these threads. We're considering people, alright? Making a thread about it won't speed it up. Choosing staff needs to be done well, and we want to choose them well to benefit the server, but obviously, we can't do it in the blink of an eye.
2- Staff inactivity, Mass summed it up well, but sometimes/most of the time, we can't give notice. I have reasons including: Emotional state, school (Damn homework everything damn day!), My laptop having adware and malware all over it for the past few months (Enjin got infected with it so any link I pressed took me to a website like; Here's Amy, 5 miles away! ._.) And irl family etc. Giving notice isn't easy when your parents call you to go out to dinner and if you don't get down there immediately they take your laptop off of you :/ Anyways, just remember we are considering staff so these threads aren't really necessary anymore. The community have made their point clear on what they want, but we also need to be clear on what the staff want and what we believe would benefit the server as well. So, stay tuned on the disney channel! Umhmhmh naaah just keep in mind we are considering staff. Please be aware of our personal needs though, we don't run our lives on a minecraft server.
 
It's okay Slime, you're still one of the most active. And calm down guys.. Sure, there are not always staff on, but there is where we come in. We remind people to not speak dutch, we are always listening for reports or checking if anyone is indeed hacking. WE, those who report an listen also help them. Staff may not be always there, but your reports ARE listened to. And if new staff is coming, it will only approve. So just sit down and wait it out please.
 
Great to know that staff are looking into new Pre-Mods! Pity I lost my chance when I got reported...
Can staff maybe give us a hint on who may be or next Pre-Mod? Also, maybe add a kind of Forum Mod for Aj, since he's veeeeeery inactive ingame.

-Nik
 
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