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Old EW RP Argument Thread! :D

nah the reason I didn't attack you was because everyone started whining and compaining calling me a bad mod when I first time did it ^^
Also fun fact, the attack I did, I got inside your walls without anybody noticing + two people died from a group of like 20 mobs xd
 
Lord Aegon Blackfyre
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Blackfyre's Batman
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Army of Blackfyre
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Demons that Blackfyre fought
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Cair Andros
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Archenhall
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Dat batman......
 
[quote user_id="5455627" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/michaelrotov1234/74.png" name="michaelrotov1234"][quote user_id="7026970" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/ryanbark/74.png" name="ryanbark"]I think it would have been cooler if the demons were in control, would have stopped the disputes between us, hmm?

It didn't.

[quote user_id="5701130" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/Hentz/74.png" name="Hentz"]Michael, you don't understand what I tried to say, no fortress or idk what would hold long against them, they spawned EVERYWHERE.
3 doors? Pff, can be broken or used tnt on it.Cair had even more doors(Main gate, main gate of the keep, 2. level gate, 3. level gate, inner keep, road to Archenhall)
And how does natural defence help against witches making portals to spawn in blazes, zombies etc?Btw, your farm area was fairly flat and was a perfect spot for them and mountains were pretty flat too and they weren't that high around Forlond.
Forlond would have been much much harder to defend against demons.
And by ''Basically you couldn't have any empty spaces'' I literally meant that, if you had empty spaces they'd spawn there.
And for them, number of men didn't matter as some are stupid enough to jump in to them or just get knocked off/killed by them spawning behind. Ultimately you would run out of arrows, armour, weapons, food and you'd die.
And archery would help only a little.
Aaand what would have stopped Only from making a nice fireball rain?[/quote]

You still don't seem to get me.
I didn't mean 3 doors. I mean that there are three layers of defenses, but unlike cair we don't put our defenses in a straight line so we could hole up in multiple places. This is an advantage as it allows for a bit of flexibility.
Zombies are managable. Blazes are less so. But we have underground sections and a keep, even if they fireballed those from teh air it would not have mattered.
Not that many are stupid enough to do the things you mentioned, although it ultimately depends on who is online. If I was (which was most of the time back in those days) it would have held, or if someone similar minded to me was. Also, Forlond's spaces are generally smaller so less of them could spawn in a particular space (defeat in detail)
One of the advantages of Ilthilien is its ability to produce more stuff. Believe me, we would not have run out of armor and food before you guys did. There is a reason we could afford to build more settlements than you guys.

BTW even if Forlond had 'fallen' we had even more settlements where we could retreat to. We would simply retake it a few days later.[/quote]

The underground places would have been the first to be overrun in lots of cases. We had demon portals in our mine and below our underground prison. Demons don't use logic btw. It's not just orcs! There's ghasts and weird mutant things me the occasional giant in the heart of your defences. Iron swords would break as would about 3 stone over the course of the battles. Also if you can reproduce new iron/leather armour for everyone in Forlond every day then you must have got very lucky with mining :p .

http://youtu.be/3DnrCCCbPsc this is what would happen if demons invaded you! :thumb:[/quote]

Ilthilien losing a battle (against nazgul, trolls and a lot of orcs):

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Blackfyre losing a battle:

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No points for guessing who survived.
 
Re : Michael :3

I haven't heard of most of the blackfyre supporters but I'm pretty sure that the vale, the westerlands, Dorne and the crown lands were better than most of the rebel supporters :p

Loyalist (Targaryen supporters)
House Arryn
House Lannister
House Martell
House Hayford
House Caswell
House Penrose
House Lefford
House Templeton
House Webber
House Waynwood

Rebels (Blackfyre supporters)
House Costayne
House Bracken
House Lothston
House Reyne
House Shawney
House Peake
House Osgrey
House Strickland
House Sunderland
House Yronwood
 
[quote user_id="5455627" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/michaelrotov1234/74.png" name="michaelrotov1234"]Not original enough.
Wasn't supposed to be original.
Btw, the only good archers in Ilthilien were Michal and Mark(sorry if anybody else feels insulted).[/quote]

There were others, I forgot most of their names now, but we do not have that many good archers left. Still we are recruiting. I can do a bit of sniping myself (But not combat archery)
 
[quote user_id="5455627" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/michaelrotov1234/74.png" name="michaelrotov1234"]Not original enough.
Wasn't supposed to be original.
Btw, the only good archers in Ilthilien were Michal and Mark(sorry if anybody else feels insulted).[/quote]

And for some reason you know the archery skill of all the people who were in Ilthilien back then so that you can say this ?
 
[quote user_id="5701130" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/Hentz/74.png" name="Hentz"][quote user_id="5455627" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/michaelrotov1234/74.png" name="michaelrotov1234"]Not original enough.
Wasn't supposed to be original.
Btw, the only good archers in Ilthilien were Michal and Mark(sorry if anybody else feels insulted).[/quote]

And for some reason you know the archery skill of all the people who were in Ilthilien back then so that you can say this ?[/quote]
That's why I said 'Sorry if anybody else feels insulted''...
 
[quote user_id="2931363" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/Mr_CookieSmurf/74.png" name="Mr_CookieSmurf"]
[quote user_id="5455627" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/michaelrotov1234/74.png" name="michaelrotov1234"]Not original enough.
Wasn't supposed to be original.
Btw, the only good archers in Ilthilien were Michal and Mark(sorry if anybody else feels insulted).

And for some reason you know the archery skill of all the people who were in Ilthilien back then so that you can say this ?[/quote]
That's why I said 'Sorry if anybody else feels insulted''...[/quote]

No, you're saying that others have no skill except Michal and Mark, while you don't know if they actually have. The ''Sorry if anybody else feels insulted'' has to do if someone gets insulted because you said that they don't have skill. (While you don't know if they actually have skill)
 
[quote user_id="5701130" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/Hentz/74.png" name="Hentz"]
[quote user_id="5701130" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/Hentz/74.png" name="Hentz"][quote user_id="5455627" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/michaelrotov1234/74.png" name="michaelrotov1234"]Not original enough.
Wasn't supposed to be original.
Btw, the only good archers in Ilthilien were Michal and Mark(sorry if anybody else feels insulted).

And for some reason you know the archery skill of all the people who were in Ilthilien back then so that you can say this ?[/quote]
That's why I said 'Sorry if anybody else feels insulted''...[/quote]

No, you're saying that others have no skill except Michal and Mark, while you don't know if they actually have. The ''Sorry if anybody else feels insulted'' has to do if someone gets insulted because you said that they don't have skill. (While you don't know if they actually have skill)[/quote]
Since when is good just above no skill?! I said that the only good archers were Michal and Mark(at that time) this doesn't mean that others have no skills...
 
[quote user_id="2931363" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/Mr_CookieSmurf/74.png" name="Mr_CookieSmurf"]
[quote user_id="2931363" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/Mr_CookieSmurf/74.png" name="Mr_CookieSmurf"]
[quote user_id="5455627" avatar="https://cravatar.eu/helmavatar/michaelrotov1234/74.png" name="michaelrotov1234"]Not original enough.
Wasn't supposed to be original.
Btw, the only good archers in Ilthilien were Michal and Mark(sorry if anybody else feels insulted).

And for some reason you know the archery skill of all the people who were in Ilthilien back then so that you can say this ?
That's why I said 'Sorry if anybody else feels insulted''...[/quote]

No, you're saying that others have no skill except Michal and Mark, while you don't know if they actually have. The ''Sorry if anybody else feels insulted'' has to do if someone gets insulted because you said that they don't have skill. (While you don't know if they actually have skill)[/quote]
Since when is good just above no skill?! I said that the only good archers were Michal and Mark(at that time) this doesn't mean that others have no skills...[/quote]

Yes, but you do say they're all lesser to Michal and Mark, while you don't know their skill.
 
Perry probably would have defected to help me alongside nacnud, matt, and sjoerdo. I beat the Reddagger dudes probably would have helped us too. We were pretty well equipped in Edessa as gym, i, and col all had full diamond armor and some of us could use iron swords. Most of ilthilien was inactive at that point and lived inside of edessa after the sacking of forlond. It was a sad sight to see the ruins of Ilthilien. Blackfyre was very corrupt and everybody13 was a backstabbing faggot, but they were not directly at war with us.

(From rp screenshots thread)

You have to put it in context, at that time you were nowhere as popular as you are now (And even now not everyone likes you) and matt and sjoerdo0 would not have defected (even if they did it frankly would not have mattered on the large scale). Ilthilien also had people who had diamond armor (for example myself) and iron armor is not much weaker than diamond, loads of people had iron. In a fight we would have taken heavy losses but you would have suffered a pyrrhic victory. (Pyrrhus defeated 2 roman armies but the romans simply raised another army) Blackfyre would have supported ilthilien even during the war (we were historical allies, it would be like 2 friends having a petty argument but would help each other out if an external threat came, I kept communicating with everybody13 even during the war and this helped in the eventual peace agreement). It would have been like Japan vs the US where although Japan had better tech the US was able to outproduce them. Forlond was in ruins but still defendable and we had hidden fortresses.
 
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